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Is Zurb Foundation in active development? #11767DescriptionI have not seen a new pull request go through since Jan 2019. Is Foundation still in active development? I just want to know before I use on a few new projects.
Thanks in advance. Reacted by Sven-WEBDESIGN, Jason Kalawe, Patrick Lindsay, Chris, Arash M., Rahiyan Safin, pschweinme and Davide Muzzarelli Reacted by Rahiyan Safin Reacted by artisson, Yun Hao, aliv, Jeff Schwerdtfeger, SCPCOEXR, Jasper Kooij, chemicalkosek, Arjen de Jong, Olivier Tassinari, Melissa Code and 11 more ActivityDanielRuf commented on Jun 7, 2019 I was one of the most active contributors to Foundation Sites in the last years. I'll try to answer this as best as possible.
In general this project is maintained and developed by volunteers, there are not so many people from ZURB involved anymore (which is not great). The communication could have been better.
The lead dev which helped with the last releases left the project and works on other things now. Currently I am mostly the solely active contributor. Unfortunately I (still) see no active contributions from other Yetinauts (the volunteers).
Doing this alone is not very motivating and the motivation which I had for Foundation Sites is not there anymore and I have stopped investing more time.
I welcome any help from the community and invite you all to actively contribute to the code.
So far 8 people have reacted to this issue and almost all have never contributed to this project (well, maintaining something big like this is a big responsibility and being a maintainer is never easy). This is not a critic but I would like to get some support by others. Reacted by Leandro Vieira, Alex Whedbee, oxyc, Rene Saare, Yun Hao, Vladimir Vassilev, kayamm, Motiejus, Tarik, Christopher Canisius and 22 more Reacted by Mitchell, Yun Hao, Chris and Arash M. Reacted by Patrick Lindsay, Marc Solèr, Glenn F. Henriksen, Jonathan Desrosiers, Martin Schilliger, 石林行者, Chris, Adam Blodgett, Radek Hrančík, Thomas Schmidt and 8 more Reacted by Chris McClellan, Lucas Repolês, Chris, Jesus Lugo, MickCreates and Arash M. reinhardmohr commented on Jun 8, 2019 Hi, Daniel,
thanks for helping so much!
This is the first clear answer about the progress of Foundation since I thought something might have gone wrong. I am no developer (at least not a real one) so I can't really help maintain the code. But what else could people like me do? People who have used Foundation, benefitted from it and would now like to give back something?
Could we develop a plan, an idea, a suggestion?
Thanks for helping and maintaining
Reinhard Reacted by Chris McClellan, Detlev Lengsfeld, Radek Hrančík and Arash M. Reacted by Vladimir Vassilev and Arash M. bgarrant commented on Jun 8, 2019 Thanks for the work you have done Daniel. I am not a developer either so there is not much I can offer. Sorry. I hope Foundation lives on. oliviertassinari commented on Jun 11, 2019 DanielRuf commented on Jun 11, 2019 oliviertassinari commented on Jun 11, 2019 newbeginnerdeveloper commented on Jun 11, 2019 Where are ncoden Rafi and others? JeremyEnglert commented on Jun 13, 2019
Where are ncoden Rafi and others?
- Ncoden is working on other project.
- Rafi works for ZURB. Not 100% sure.
- Others? We're all volunteers. So everyone has their own projects to work on. Without a "lead", the project lost momentum.
Reacted by Leandro Vieira, Yun Hao and Arash M. brettsmason commented on Jun 13, 2019 A lot of us are still around. But unfortunately without any clear direction or lead, my motivation to help just isn't there. reinhardmohr commented on Jun 14, 2019 Hi, I am neither a coder nor a Yetinaut – I am just an ordinary user of Fundation. But I regret it being abandoned.
So:
- How could things be organized?
- How could I help?
- What could we do to maintain the project?
- Who could and should discuss things with Zurb?
Given there are 100 users of Foundation each willing to give a 100 Dollars to keep the project going (I am willing to): There would be 10.000 Dollars as a starting point …
How could things be started to improve?
Thanks for answering and helping
Reinhard xgarb commented on Jun 14, 2019 Maybe a Kickstarter for a JQuery-free version 7? Reacted by Yun Hao, Marco, Tarik, Florian Ajir, Chris, Jogai, DigitalMonk510 and |7eter l-|. l3oling newbeginnerdeveloper commented on Jun 14, 2019 As a web developer my priorities are different.
- fix for problems with topbar menu
- fix for sticky
- fix for usability: topmenu for smartphone,
- use media queries like bootstrap
- responsive font sizes
...
..
Things like this. If there is jquery or not for me is not important.
If development of a version without jquery is too expensive i think is not a priority
Matteo Reacted by Yun Hao, Manuel Becker, Wolfgang Demeter, Detlev Lengsfeld, Chris and DigitalMonk510 Reacted by Detlev Lengsfeld, Chris and |7eter l-|. l3oling DanielRuf commented on Jun 14, 2019 SassNinja commented on Jun 14, 2019
use media queries like bootstrap
Not sure what you mean.
I'm wondering the same. What exactly do you mean?
Foundation provides breakpoint specific classes, too. JeremyEnglert commented on Jun 14, 2019
Given there are 100 users of Foundation each willing to give a 100 Dollars to keep the project going (I am willing to): There would be 10.000 Dollars as a starting point …
That's a great goal, but I'm also not sure how realistic it is. Even if $10,000 was raised, I'm not sure how long that could keep someone/people working on the project. When Foundation was at its peak, it had multiple (ZURB) developers investing a ton of time into it.
How could things be started to improve?
Direction. Someone from ZURB needs to step up and lead the project or help the project cut ties from ZURB and become completely community based. At the moment, not much can be done without ZURB's input.
Maybe a Kickstarter for a JQuery-free version 7?
A "jQuery Free" version isn't going to save the project. A Kickstarter might be a good idea, but we can't build a campaign around specific features (jQuery-free).
As a web developer my priorities are different....If development of a version without jquery is too expensive i think is not a priority
Honestly, at this point there isn't even enough resources to maintain V6. It's not about funds (although that helps) or priorities. It's a lack of direction and time that is the issue. joeworkman commented on Dec 7, 2019 Baedda commented on Dec 9, 2019 Good news! Thanks for your engagement! dlewand691 commented on Dec 10, 2019 Congratulations on the first non-Zurb release! Be sure to add any donation options to help keep support and development running. DieterVanWerkum commented on Feb 15, 2020 Congratulations guys. I'm glad I checked this issue before seriously considering 'plan B(ootst . . . )'. I have no relevant developer skills to offer but will be happy to report bugs if and when. Reacted by Daniel Ruf, Adam Blodgett and Samuel Khola vesan132806 commented on Jan 5, 2023 I need help with updating the foundation press theme.I'm using version 2.10.4.I can't even open wordpress admin dashboard.can anyone please help me to find out the issue and resolve it? chesio commented on Jan 5, 2023
I need help with updating the foundation press theme.I'm using version 2.10.4.I can't even open wordpress admin dashboard.can anyone please help me to find out the issue and resolve it?
Hi @vesan132806, this repository is not for WordPress theme, but for CSS/JS framework. You want to check here: https://github.com/olefredrik/FoundationPress Note that this repo is now read only, so you won't be able to ask there for help, just search through existing issues.
Btw. if your WordPress dashboard is not available, one of your options is to connect to your website via FTP and try to disable any active plugin (or active theme) by renaming its folder. There are plenty resources online that describe this procedure. If you still are in a need of help, try asking in WordPress Support Forums: https://wordpress.org/support/forums/ josh-atkins-10c commented on May 26, 2023 Hello! Foundation is great but I've just seen this post and understand that development has stopped - thanks to everyone who has contributed to it. I'm wondering if it might be possible to add an obvious notice on the Docs website that indicates the project is read only and not under active development? I had adopted Foundation because even now it lends itself to really rapid development, but under a deadline it would have been helpful to realise upfront what the status of the project is to aid in choice of adopting or not. Cheers! agoradesign commented on May 26, 2023 It would be really sad, if this project would die. The fact, that the development has slowed down extremely already 3 years ago, but Foundation is still the best CSS framework imho, shows impressively, how valuable this project is.
From time to time, I'm therefore trying other frameworks as well - but there wasn't a single one I've really enjoyed working with. I really don't know, why people are using Tailwind - this absolutely sucks imho. At least, it's 100% against my philosophy of writing HTML and CSS code... I tried Bulma as well, but the UX for me as developer wasn't that great. Of course I tried Bootstrap a few times - one can work with that, but there are so many small unconveniences and problems in comparison to working with Foundation, so that I'm still using it frequently :)
I'd contribute, if I could. We're a tiny agency, so money donation is nothing that I can provide. Also, I'm way more good at programming PHP than on JS for example, so contributing code to a framework like Foundation is also not really a viable option unfortunately :( Aetles commented on May 26, 2023 Not wanting to turn this into a debate about frameworks and philosophy, but I'm one of those who has moved on to Tailwind. I really liked Foundation (much better for me than Bootstrap and others) and used it for many years and many projects. But I don't really see the conflict in using Tailwind now because the parts of Foundation that I loved and used the most of was the solid grid classes, and I kind of used them like I'm using Tailwind these days; to style things form HTML rather than CSS files. joeworkman commented on May 26, 2023 DieterVanWerkum commented on May 26, 2023 Thanks Joe for pitching in so fast. My heartrate is back to normal.
Best regards,
Dieter
…vladyslav2 commented on Sep 9, 2024 DanielRuf commented on Sep 9, 2024 vladyslav2 commented on Sep 9, 2024 @DanielRuf thanks, understood
perhaps link on the main page should also be updated cause it still pointing to the github discussions?
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