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Any cross-interpreter mechanism for passing objects between interpreters must be very careful to respect isolation, even when the object is effectively immutable (e.g. int, str). Here this especially relates to when an interpreter sends one of its objects, and then is destroyed while the inter-interpreter machinery (e.g. queue) still holds a reference to the object.

When I added interpreters.Queue, I dealt with that case (using an atexit hook) by silently removing all items from the queue that were added by the finalizing interpreter.

Later, while working on concurrent.futures.InterpreterPoolExecutor (gh-116430), I noticed it was somewhat surprising when items were silently removed from the queue when the originating interpreter was destroyed. (See my comment on that PR.)
It took me a little while to realize what was going on. I expect that users, which much less context than I have, would experience the same pain.

My approach, here, to improving the situation is to give users three options:

  1. return a singleton (interpreters.queues.UNBOUND) from Queue.get() in place of each removed item
  2. raise an exception (interpreters.queues.ItemInterpreterDestroyed) from Queue.get() in place of each removed item
  3. existing behavior: silently remove each item (i.e. Queue.get() skips each one)

The default will now be (1), but users can still explicitly opt in any of them, including to the silent removal behavior.

The behavior for each item may be set with the corresponding Queue.put() call. and a queue-wide default may be set when the queue is created. (This is the same as I did for "synconly".)
(cherry picked from commit 6b98b27)

Co-authored-by: Eric Snow [email protected]

  • Issue: [subinterpreters] PEP 554 implementation: add interpreters module #76785

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pythongh-76785: Expand How Interpreter Queues Handle Interpreter Fina…
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Any cross-interpreter mechanism for passing objects between interpreters must be very careful to respect isolation, even when the object is effectively immutable (e.g. int, str).  Here this especially relates to when an interpreter sends one of its objects, and then is destroyed while the inter-interpreter machinery (e.g. queue) still holds a reference to the object.

When I added interpreters.Queue, I dealt with that case (using an atexit hook) by silently removing all items from the queue that were added by the finalizing interpreter.

Later, while working on concurrent.futures.InterpreterPoolExecutor (pythongh-116430), I noticed it was somewhat surprising when items were silently removed from the queue when the originating interpreter was destroyed.  (See my comment on that PR.)
 It took me a little while to realize what was going on.  I expect that users, which much less context than I have, would experience the same pain.

My approach, here, to improving the situation is to give users three options:

1. return a singleton (interpreters.queues.UNBOUND) from Queue.get() in place of each removed item
2. raise an exception (interpreters.queues.ItemInterpreterDestroyed) from Queue.get() in place of each removed item
3. existing behavior: silently remove each item (i.e. Queue.get() skips each one)

The default will now be (1), but users can still explicitly opt in any of them, including to the silent removal behavior.

The behavior for each item may be set with the corresponding Queue.put() call. and a queue-wide default may be set when the queue is created.  (This is the same as I did for "synconly".)
(cherry picked from commit 6b98b27)

Co-authored-by: Eric Snow <[email protected]>
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miss-islington requested a review from ericsnowcurrently as a code owner July 15, 2024 18:49
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[subinterpreters] PEP 554 implementation: add interpreters module #76785
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ericsnowcurrently merged commit f19ccfd into python:3.13 Jul 15, 2024
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miss-islington deleted the backport-6b98b27-3.13 branch January 2, 2026 16:51
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