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GeezerVison is showing github.com — gh-99127: Allow some features of syslog to the main interpreter only by corona10 · Pull Request #99128 · python/cpython Conversation
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(.oss) ➜ cpython git:(gh-99127) ✗ ./python.exe -m test test_syslog -R 3:3 Raised RLIMIT_NOFILE: 256 -> 1024 0:00:00 load avg: 3.65 Run tests sequentially 0:00:00 load avg: 3.65 [1/1] test_syslog beginning 6 repetitions 123456 ...... == Tests result: SUCCESS == 1 test OK. Total duration: 704 ms Tests result: SUCCESS |
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Something to consider: what happens when multiple sub interpreters use the syslog extension. The current implementation always calls openlog(3) at least once before calling syslog(3), see the check in syslog_syslog_impl.
That results in interference between sub interpreters when in one of them the python code explicitly calls syslog.openlog and the other doesn't.
IMHO the check in syslog_syslog_impl is not necessary because it results in a call to openlog(3) with parameters that match the default behaviour of the syslog library. Removing it is a fairly minor behaviour change though (syslog.syslog will currently override any calls to openlog that were done in C before the first call to syslog.syslog and will stop doing that when removing the check in syslog_syslog_impl).
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Thanks that's why I got a headache which makes me close the issue but thanks to suggest the solution.
Yeah, IIUC we should call openlog(3) anyway while calling syslog.syslog right? |
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Or did you intended implicit call of openlog(3) while calling syslog(3)? |
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Failure tests from buildbot/PPC64LE Fedora were not related to this change. |
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Unfortunately I don't have time to review this right now. Maybe @serhiy-storchaka can have a look? He recently did some work on this module. |
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At the C level calling openlog(3) before calling syslog(3) is not necessary, although the spec is not entirely clear about this. The linux manual page does clearly mention that openlog(3) is optional, and matches what I remember from older Unix systems. The call to openlog in syslog_syslog_impl basically resets the default system state (use the process name for the ident and log using the LOG_USER facility). Leaving that out should therefore be harmless, but this is technically a user-visible change of behaviour:
Currently the Python code resets the values set in the first step, with my proposal it would no longer do this. I'd consider this a good change, but there's bound to be someone affected by this. |
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The stateless syslog C API doesn't seem to be designed to be consumed by multiple interpreters. I'm not sure that making S_ident_o and S_log_open global varibles per interpreter is safe.
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| _syslog_state *state = get_syslog_state(module); | ||
| if (state->S_log_open) { | ||
| closelog(); |
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What happens if interpreter A calls closelog() and interpreter B (same process!) still uses the Python syslog module, so after closelog() has been called?
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POSIX syslog will transparently call openlog() with default values.
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Oh I missed this, I will push the documentation ASAP. |
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@vstinner Updated! PTAL @ericsnowcurrently |
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LGTM. I'm not good to review English, but the code LGTM :-)
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| * :func:`syslog.openlog` and :func:`syslog.closelog` are only available from the main interpreter not subinterpreter. | ||
| :func:`syslog.syslog` is only available to subinterpreters if :func:`syslog.openlog` was already called from the main interpreter. | ||
| (Contributed by Dong-hee Na in :gh:`99127`.) |
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Hum, I think that the "Porting to Python 3.12" is a better section for these changes. The "syslog" section is more for new features.
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Why can syslog.syslog only be used when the main interpreter has called syslog.openlog? That's a restriction that is not present in the underlying library.
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@ronaldoussoren cc @ericsnowcurrently
This might be the discussion part for this change, from the view of managing for open/close state, subinterpreter should not intervene in changing the state of open/close. And this is why syslog.openlog and syslog.closelog are not available to the subinterpreter side. so if the subinterpreter can call syslog.syslog() without involving the main interpreter, it means that subinterpreter intervenes in the state of open/close so I think that it should be prevented.
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Calling openlog (and closelog) is optional in syslog(3) with sensible defaults. There is no need to call openlog at all unless a program wants to change some of the default settings, and that could be done outside of the Python world.
For a use-case like embedding Python in a web server (like mod_python it is more likely that the embedding program does the syslog setup than that this is done in Python code.
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Calling openlog (and closelog) is optional in syslog(3) with sensible defaults. There is no need to call openlog at all unless a program wants to change some of the default settings, and that could be done outside of the Python world.
In summary for your suggestion might be:
But if the subinterpreter calls syslog.syslog() after the main interpreter calls the syslog.closelog(), the subinterpreter will neutralize what the main interpreter did. Who will close the syslog.syslog() that is opened by subinterpreter?
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There are two factors here:
S_ident_o), which is tricky when multiple interpreters are involvedRegarding the first one, this is perhaps something that we need not be so strict about. In Python, "app" means the __main__ module, running in the main interpreter (starting in the main thread). This implies that the global resources modifed via syslog.openlog() and syslog.closelog() should only be managed in the main interpreter. This would be similar to how signal handlers are supported only in the main thread of the main interpreter. However, this could be an overly strict interpretation for syslog. It makes sense to me, but "consenting adults", etc.
Regarding the second factor, we have been (and still are) working hard to get interpreters isolated from one another, especially to avoid problems that arise when they step on each others' toes. [1] (Isolation also provides new implementation opportunities.) For example, an object created in one interpreter should never be modified (even just the refcount) by another interpreter. [2] In the case of syslog, the object in the static variable (set in syslog.openlog()) should be managed only by the interpreter that owns it. Here are ways to enforce this:
openlog() should be the only one allowed to call closelog() (simplest way is to restrict to the main interpreter)closelog(), then it would call Py_AddPendingCall() to have the owning interpreter decref the stringObviously we went with the simplest form of the first one.
On top of the existing isolation concerns, there are additional ones that become more complicated under a per-interpreter GIL due to thread-safety. These are a non-issue if we restrict to a per-interpreter GIL.
[1] Such problems would be amplified by a per-interpreter GIL (see PEP 684, which has not been accepted yet), but they still exist even now.
[2] Except for a small set of objects managed by the process-global runtime.
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Regardless, if the concern is backward compatibility, we can easily apply the restriction only if the subinterpreter was created via Py_NewInterpreter() (or, under a per-interpreter GIL, is otherwise sharing the GIL with the main interpreter).
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Calling openlog (and closelog) is optional in syslog(3) with sensible defaults. There is no need to call openlog at all unless a program wants to change some of the default settings, and that could be done outside of the Python world.
For a use-case like embedding Python in a web server (like mod_python it is more likely that the embedding program does the syslog setup than that this is done in Python code.
FWIW, both concerns are valid, but pre-date this PR.
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I've left some recommendations for the docs.
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When you're done making the requested changes, leave the comment: |
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Co-authored-by: Eric Snow <[email protected]>
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I have made the requested changes; please review again |
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Thanks for making the requested changes! @ericsnowcurrently, @vstinner: please review the changes made to this pull request. |
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The limitation comes from Python which stores a Python object in a global variable: We must hold a strong reference because we pass a pointer into the internal UTF-8 encoded flavor of the Unicode string, PyUnicode_AsUTF8(): I understand that openlog() doesn't copy the ident string. Maybe this assumption is wrong and the whole change is not needed. I don't know. I don't want to check the implementation of openlog() on all supported platforms, and run a real test.
Ok, I'm curious and I looked into the GNU glibc: https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=blob;f=misc/syslog.c;h=f67d4b58a448cabdf63f629f72a9df6e009286cf;hb=HEAD#l295 The ident string is not copied, only the pointer is copied ( |
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One problem with sub-interpreters is that Python objects should not travel from one interpreter to another. But For closelog(), I proposed earlier a counter increased by syslog.openlog() and decreased by syslog.closelog(). The C function closelog() would only be called when the counter reach zero. One problem is if two interepreters use different identifiers, the latest call to syslog.openlog() wins: it overrides the previous ident (and log level). os.chdir() has a similar problem: it's a process-wide parameter affecting all threads and all interpreters. But it's a simpler problem. The current working directory is stored in the kernel, not in Python, and no resource have to be released explicitly at exit :-) |
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Agree, keeping a copy of ident in the raw dynamically allocated array will resolve the issue. But I do not think we need a reference counter. Just call |
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What about keeping a static buffer and copying the str object's C string into it, then giving the buffer to #define MAX_IDENT 256 static char S_ident[MAX_IDENT+1]; ... static PyObject * syslog_openlog_impl(...) { .... const char *ident_str = NULL; if (ident != NULL) { Py_ssize_t size = PyUnicode_GET_LENGTH(ident); if (size > MAX_IDENT) { PyErr_SetString(...); return NULL; } else if (size > 0) { strncpy(S_ident, PyUnicode_AsUTF8(ident), size); ident_str = S_ident; } } openlog(ident_str, logopt, facility); Py_RETURN_NONE; } static PyObject * syslog_syslog_impl(...) { if (PySys_Audit("syslog.syslog", "is", priority, message) < 0) { ... } #ifdef __APPLE__ // gh-98178: On macOS, libc syslog() is not thread-safe syslog(priority, "%s", message); #else Py_BEGIN_ALLOW_THREADS; syslog(priority, "%s", message); Py_END_ALLOW_THREADS; #endif Py_RETURN_NONE; } static PyObject * syslog_closelog_impl(PyObject *module) { ... closelog(); Py_RETURN_NONE; } There would still be a race under per-interpreter GIL, though, if subinterpreters are allowed to call |
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@ronaldoussoren @vstinner @ericsnowcurrently As the first step for the subinterpreter project, I would like to suggest maintaining restrictions for subinterpreter as the current PR. |
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LGTM
This is a good baseline. I'm okay with circling back with improvements (or loosening restrictions) afterward.
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