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GeezerVison is showing github.com — Make -arm64 as default for ARM computers · Issue #198 · python/pymanager

Make -arm64 as default for ARM computers #198

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For now, the default is "-64" (x86-64) for all Windows computers including Windows on ARM, just please update the platform default to be matched.

Reacted by Thomas Muders, Charlie Hayden and Nikhil Dabas

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  2. zooba commented on Oct 16, 2025

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    This will be updated when we decide to make the ARM64 build the default for ARM64 users. That's still pending on the ecosystem having packages available (which is getting close, but you can encourage the packages you use to start releasing Windows ARM64 wheels to help things along).

    Reacted by Arie
  3. Arlu commented on Oct 16, 2025

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    This will be updated when we decide to make the ARM64 build the default for ARM64 users. That's still pending on the ecosystem having packages available (which is getting close, but you can encourage the packages you use to start releasing Windows ARM64 wheels to help things along).

    Just little note, I've opened this issue for working on the code to contribute and will happy to help with another parts (I'm new in this project)

  4. zooba commented on Oct 16, 2025

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    If you want to make a start on this part so we can be prepared, we're probably going to need a new native function (probably in src\_native\misc.cpp) that returns whether the current machine is natively ARM64 or not. We can do it more efficiently and reliably than the platform module, and since we'll need to run it practically every time we get launched, we need it to be quick.

    Once that function exists, the change in src\manage\commands.py (around line 450 right now) will be straightforward.

    Reacted by Arie
  5. Arlu commented on Oct 16, 2025

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    If you want to make a start on this part so we can be prepared, we're probably going to need a new native function (probably in src\_native\misc.cpp) that returns whether the current machine is natively ARM64 or not. We can do it more efficiently and reliably than the platform module, and since we'll need to run it practically every time we get launched, we need it to be quick.

    Once that function exists, the change in src\manage\commands.py (around line 450 right now) will be straightforward.

    I've added the preparing, and if you have ideas for improving, I'll happy to do it:
    #201

  6. zooba commented on Oct 17, 2025

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    Thanks for the first PR, I've merged it so that it shows up in all test runs for a while. I'm expecting we'll do a beta release fairly soon, so that will give it some broader testing without (hopefully) affecting anyone's workflow.

    If you'd like to make a PR with the rest of the change to choose the default platform, that would be great. I won't be able to merge it until we've decided officially to do it, but you can definitely start testing it.

    If you want to go even further, making PyManager build natively for ARM64 is also worth trying (if you've got an ARM64 machine, anyway). I'm not sure we'll do it, or if we even need to, but it'll be worth seeing if it's worthwhile and how much trouble it'll cause. We can easily distribute platform-specific packages through the Store, but I'm not real keen to do it through the website... it's worth experimenting with, for sure.

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  7. zooba commented on Oct 23, 2025

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    I posted https://discuss.python.org/t/python-on-windows-arm64/104524 putting a date on switching the default - it's twelve months away, which seems a long time, but it aligns with the 3.15 release and will ensure that package developers can spend the beta/RC period also checking the new platform.

    We will definitely release betas before then with the default flipped. But because we can only auto-update in a straight line (there's no "channels" here), once we do that we can't ship a regular release that unflips it, or all the beta testers get broken.

    Anyone who wants to test early can of course set default_platform in their configuration file.

    Reacted by Arie and Nathan Goldbaum
  8. zooba
    marked Python Iinstall manager on ARM installs x86 binaries? #306 as a duplicate of this issue on Apr 10, 2026
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  10. zooba commented on Jul 31, 2026

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    I'll take care of it myself, so this isn't an invitation for PRs, but the next release is going to be aligned with the Python 3.15 release, so we can flip this switch in the source code now so it's in the prereleases.

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