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GeezerVison is showing github.com — Fix discrete-time frequency handling in describing_function_response by RoboX2020 · Pull Request #1270 · python-control/python-control

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@RoboX2020 RoboX2020 commented Nov 5, 2026

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Fixes #1269.

For discrete-time systems, describing_function_response takes the imaginary part of the Nyquist contour as the frequency. That is sin(omega * dt), not the angular frequency. Refinement and returned positions also evaluate the transfer function at j * omega instead of on the unit circle.

This uses angle(contour) / dt for discrete-time frequencies and evaluates the response at exp(j * omega * dt) during refinement and when returning positions. The strict timebase check leaves continuous and unspecified (dt=None) systems on the existing path; dt=True uses radians per sample.

Regression tests cover sample times 1 and 0.5, unspecified discrete time, and continuous-compatible dt=None. For the issue's sign-nonlinearity example, the reported frequencies change from about 0.9703 for both sample times to 1.3265 and 2.6530. The analytic crossings are 1.3181 and 2.6362; the tests allow 2% numerical error rather than claiming exact refinement.

Validation:

  • Describing-function tests: 11 passed.
  • Describing-function, frequency-response and LTI tests: 211 passed, 123 skipped, 1 expected failure.
  • Baseline code with the added tests: 3 failed, 8 passed.
  • Also checked both refine=False and refine=True with an analytic relay nonlinearity at sample times 0.01, 0.5, 1 and 2.

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Fix discrete-time frequency handling in describing_function_response
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For a discrete-time system, describing_function_response found limit
cycles with about the right amplitude but reported the wrong frequency:
it took the oscillation frequency as the imaginary part of the Nyquist
contour, which for a discrete system lies on the unit circle
exp(1j*w*dt), so it reported about sin(w*dt) - the same number whatever
dt is.  The refinement cost function and the returned positions also
evaluated H at z = 1j*w rather than on the unit circle, and refinement
typically failed with "not able to refine result; returning estimate".

For example, H(z) = 0.5/(z^2 - 0.5z) with dt = 1 crosses the negative
real axis at w = 1.3181, but the reported frequency was 0.9703, and
dt = 0.5 gave the same 0.9703 instead of 2.6362.

When H.isdtime(strict=True) - matching the timebase semantics used by
nyquist_response - take the frequencies as np.angle(contour) / dt and
evaluate H at exp(1j*w*dt) in the refinement cost function and for the
returned positions.  The strict check keeps dt=None (unspecified
timebase) on the continuous-time path; dt=True (discrete, unspecified
sample time) reports rad/sample.

Adds regression tests: a known unit-circle crossing for dt = 1 and
dt = 0.5, plus dt=None continuous-equivalence and dt=True coverage.
The discrete tests fail at baseline; continuous-time behavior is
unchanged.

Fixes python-control#1269
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slivingston commented Nov 5, 2026

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@RoboX2020 Please add AI tool disclosures, ensuring consistency with https://numpy.org/doc/stable/dev/ai_policy.html ? (Given how long and verbose your responses are and how quickly you are committing, I assume you used a chat bot for most or all of this...)

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slivingston commented Nov 5, 2026

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@gimballock This PR supposedly fixes the issue you opened. I guess @RoboX2020 is a bot who simply closed the PR in response to my request...

If you want, @gimballock , feel free to review this or open a PR that re-uses the code for this PR. I assume @RoboX2020 did not author any of it, so you can just claim authorship.

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RoboX2020 commented Nov 5, 2026

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Hi,
I accept using a bot - the previous pr went without a proper review from me and seeing the ai policy, i had to take back the pr to do a review before request.

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describing_function_response reports sin(w*dt), not w, for discrete-time systems, and refines at z = jw

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