GeezerVison is showing groups.google.com — State of Tamarin Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable. State of Tamarin 135 views Skip to first unread message Lucasunread,Oct 13, 2009, 5:44:01 AM10/13/09You do not have permission to delete messages in this group Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message to Hi, i just wanted to ask: What is the state of tamarin? Will it be integrated in future firefox js engines - or is it cancelled and will only be used in flash player engines? Kind Regards, moonglum
Wes Garlandunread,Oct 13, 2009, 7:57:05 AM10/13/09You do not have permission to delete messages in this group Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message Lucas: I am not a mozillian, however, IIUC -- - Tamarin was never slated for Firefox - ScreamingMonkey (Taramin's conservative GC + SpiderMonkey) is cancelled - Tamarin and TraceMonkey (SpiderMonkey + Tracing JIT) share the same JIT compiler Wes > _______________________________________________ > dev-tech-js-engine mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-tech-js-engine > -- Wesley W. Garland Director, Product Development PageMail, Inc. +1 613 542 2787 x 102
moonglumunread,Oct 13, 2009, 8:25:53 AM10/13/09You do not have permission to delete messages in this group Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message to Wes: Thanks for your response, heard something similiar in irc from another non-mozillian! The JUT Compiler seems to be named NanoJIT. - Lucas On 13 Okt., 13:57, Wes Garland <[email protected]> wrote: > Lucas: > > I am not a mozillian, however, IIUC -- > > - Tamarin was never slated for Firefox > - ScreamingMonkey (Taramin's conservative GC + SpiderMonkey) is cancelled > - Tamarin and TraceMonkey (SpiderMonkey + Tracing JIT) share the same JIT > compiler > > Wes >
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Lucas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > i just wanted to ask: What is the state of tamarin? Will it be > > integrated in future firefox js engines - or is it cancelled and will > > only be used in flash player engines? > > > Kind Regards, > > moonglum > > _______________________________________________ > > dev-tech-js-engine mailing list
> > [email protected] Graydon Hoareunread,Oct 14, 2009, 2:21:52 AM10/14/09You do not have permission to delete messages in this group Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message to moonglum moonglum wrote: > Wes: > > Thanks for your response, heard something similiar in irc from another > non-mozillian! > The JUT Compiler seems to be named NanoJIT. Yes. NanoJIT is the sole component shared between Tamarin (the Adobe ActionScript interpreter/JIT) and Spidermonkey/Tracemonkey (the Mozilla Javascript interpreter/JIT). NanoJIT is not a complete JIT for either language. It's a backend component that consumes a language-independent intermediate form called LIR and generates machine code. We're in the process of promoting NanoJIT to a independent project with its repository, to make sharing code between the two projects easier. -Graydon
moonglumunread,Oct 14, 2009, 7:12:58 AM10/14/09You do not have permission to delete messages in this group Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message to Thanks Graydon! So most of what is written here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamarin_ %28JavaScript_engine%29) is bullocks, right? And Tamarin ist not a JS Interpreter/JIT but only a ActionScript Interpreter/JIT? Ok, now i understood what NanoJIT is :) - moonglum
Nickolay Ponomarevunread,Oct 14, 2009, 8:14:35 AM10/14/09You do not have permission to delete messages in this group Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message > %28JavaScript_engine%29<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamarin_%0A%28JavaScript_engine%29>) > is bullocks, right? > Seems accurate, but I edited it a bit to clarify. > And Tamarin ist not a JS Interpreter/JIT but only a ActionScript > Interpreter/JIT? >
Yeah, but it was supposed to track ES4 development, which was supposed to be mostly backwards-compatible with JavaScript 1.x. I don't know how compatible it is with JS now, though. Nickolay
Graydon Hoareunread,Oct 18, 2009, 3:43:59 PM10/18/09You do not have permission to delete messages in this group Either email addresses are anonymous for this group or you need the view member email addresses permission to view the original message to Nickolay Ponomarev wrote: > Yeah, but it was supposed to track ES4 development, which was supposed to be > mostly backwards-compatible with JavaScript 1.x. I don't know how compatible > it is with JS now, though. Caveat: I'm not a Tamarin maintainer. Ask them if you want detailed answers. Afaik ActionScript is a superset of JavaScript, modulo some version-number skew and such. Probably a few corner cases differ, and of course none of the browser API many JS authors expect will be present. But the Tamarin testsuite contains, for example, sunspider, jsbench, v8, and the mozilla ecma3 suite. So I think it's pretty broadly compatible at a source level. -Graydon
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