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IABot overwriting Ghostarchive
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archivelover
Sep 22 2021, 6:36 PM2021-09-22 18:36:05 (UTC+0)
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Description

Sometimes, IABot will overwrite an another archive site a ghostarchive link that has already been placed in a cite web template when someone uses the management interface. Of course, this isn't a big deal, if wayback has the archived page as well then that should be fine, but sometimes there are good reasons for using another archive site then Wayback (e.g: broken websites on Wayback, certain content doesn't work on it).

Of course {{cbignore}} exists but i don't think thats necessarily the right way to go (or maybe it is)

Is this intended behavior or a bug?

Example with diffs here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=GStreamer&action=history

EDIT 10/24/2021: Changed the title to more accurately describe whats going on

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T349046: The bot should skip YouTube links for now
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T292816: IABot replaces archives

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archivelover created this task.Sep 22 2021, 6:36 PM2021-09-22 18:36:05 (UTC+0)
Cyberpower678 added a comment.Sep 22 2021, 6:43 PM2021-09-22 18:43:22 (UTC+0)
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Looks like Ghost Archive is a service the bot, and I, don't yet recognize as a legitimate archive service. The bot will need to be made aware of it first.

Harej moved this task from Inbox to Configuration and Deployment on the InternetArchiveBot board.Oct 12 2021, 2:09 AM2021-10-12 02:09:55 (UTC+0)
Harej merged a task: T292816: IABot replaces archives.
Harej added a subscriber: Kailash29792.
archivelover renamed this task from IABot overwriting other archive sites to IABot overwriting Ghostarchive .Oct 24 2021, 9:43 PM2021-10-24 21:43:02 (UTC+0)
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archivelover updated the task description. (Show Details)Oct 24 2021, 9:45 PM2021-10-24 21:45:05 (UTC+0)
Cyberpower678 changed the task status from Open to Stalled.Dec 15 2021, 8:56 PM2021-12-15 20:56:14 (UTC+0)
Cyberpower678 triaged this task as Medium priority.
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Ghostarchive is missing needed elements of snapshot data in the URLs themselves. They will need to make the URLs compliant first before IABot can accept them.

archivelover added a comment.Edited · Dec 15 2021, 9:02 PM2021-12-15 21:02:08 (UTC+0)
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I don't see what https://ghostarchive.org/archive/20210728022510/https://rms-support-letter.github.io/ is missing that https://web.archive.org/web/20210324012326/https://rms-support-letter.github.io/ doesn't. Both have the date and the URL.

Cyberpower678 changed the task status from Stalled to Open.Dec 15 2021, 9:03 PM2021-12-15 21:03:29 (UTC+0)
Cyberpower678 raised the priority of this task from Medium to High.
archivelover added a comment.Edited · Dec 30 2021, 6:27 PM2021-12-30 18:27:56 (UTC+0)
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Through experimentation i updated some of the url formats on here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:List_of_web_archives_on_Wikipedia.

If you don't want to implement the other URL formats one option is to convert any other format to the universal one (which you already implemented on https://github.com/internetarchive/internetarchivebot/commit/3c9b7066366af7719102e885f7b16e41fb805c7e ) using the original url.

Harej closed this task as Resolved.Mar 7 2022, 7:38 PM2022-03-07 19:38:59 (UTC+0)
Harej reopened this task as Open.Mar 14 2022, 6:05 PM2022-03-14 18:05:42 (UTC+0)
Harej moved this task from Configuration and Deployment to Current Work on the InternetArchiveBot board.
Green_Cardamom subscribed.Mar 14 2022, 9:36 PM2022-03-14 21:36:59 (UTC+0)
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Testcases page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:GreenC/testcases/ghostarchive

The bot can be run on this page. Example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AGreenC%2Ftestcases%2Fghostarchive&type=revision&diff=1076182989&oldid=1076180971

Cyberpower678 moved this task from Current Work to Awaiting Review on the InternetArchiveBot board.Apr 1 2022, 6:17 PM2022-04-01 18:17:22 (UTC+0)
Cyberpower678 closed this task as Resolved.Apr 5 2022, 11:06 PM2022-04-05 23:06:46 (UTC+0)
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Kailash29792 added a comment.Jun 4 2022, 4:54 AM2022-06-04 04:54:24 (UTC+0)
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Again IABot overwrites Ghostarchive, as seen here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=1091413557&diffmode=source. While the Wayback archive thankfully works, this should otherwise never be the instance since, for example, Wayback cannot archive Instagram but Ghostarchive can.

FranklinYu mentioned this in T349046: The bot should skip YouTube links for now.Oct 17 2023, 1:01 AM2023-10-17 01:01:03 (UTC+0)
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