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Ciro Santilli’s GitHub Profile

Check out: OurBigBook.com, the best way to publish your scientific knowledge. It is an open source note taking system that can publish from lightweight markup files in your computer to both a multi-user mind-melding dynamic website, or as static HTML. It’s like Wikipedia + GitHub + Stack Overflow + Obsidian mashed up. Source code: https://github.com/ourbigbook/ourbigbook

Sponsor me: https://cirosantilli.com/sponsor 1M USD = I quit my for 3 more years to work edtech + higher ed reform. Status: ~44k / 1M USD. The 1st year started 1st June 2024 after 100k USD was reached with 1000 Monero donation. Trying to kickstart The Higher Education Revolution. A second year would increase the chances of success: on year 2 I come guns blazing with amazing tech and and try to expand.

Mission: to live in a world where you can learn university-level mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology and engineering from perfect free open source books that anyone can write to get famous.

Ciro Santilli’s homepage is: https://cirosantilli.com

Sponsor Ciro at https://github.com/sponsors/cirosantilli so he can work full time on: https://OurBigBook.com and on writing amazing university-level natural science and technology tutorials for all ages to revolutionize education. More info at: https://cirosantilli.com/sponsor

Ciro’s most important repositories are:

  • China Dictatorship: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship: casually trying to destroy the Chinese Communist Party and save the world

  • OurBigBook https://github.com/ourbigbook/ourbigbook:

    • source code for https://OurBigBook.com: trying to destroy the current useless university system. Or at least improve it/make it cheaper/less inneficient, more rationale at: https://cirosantilli.com/ourbigbook-com.

    • also contains the ultimate static wiki generator

  • cirosantilli.github.io https://github.com/cirosantilli/cirosantilli.github.io: the source for https://cirosantilli.com

  • Linux Kernel Module Cheat https://github.com/cirosantilli/linux-kernel-module-cheat: the ultimate emulation-based systems programming setup/cheatsheet

  • x86 Bare Metal Examples https://github.com/cirosantilli/x86-bare-metal-examples: should be merged into Linux Kernel Module Cheat, but lazy

Ciro’s most starred repos: https://github.com/search?o=desc&q=user%3Acirosantilli&s=stars&type=Repositories Some are abandoned/merged into other repos as per their description.

And now here is a manual (and therefore out-of-date) copy of https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/#copypasta just as a test to see what will happen when a profile README gets added to https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns.

1. China Dictatorship 中国独裁统治

编程随想 Programthink

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/programthink

cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#980

Programthink

社会主义核心价值观 Core socialist values

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/core-socialist-values

Core socialist values

水浒传 Water margin

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/water-margin

Water Margin tribute to dissidents

我喜欢我的独裁制度 I like my dictatorship

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/most-chinese-people-like-their-dictatorship

Anonymous middle fingers

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/uneducated-masses

Immoral and uneducated
Immoral and uneducated en

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/overlook-human-rights-for-profit

Pig politics Chinese
Rebel pepper pig can%27t eat democracy cartoon translated to English by Ciro Santilli

六四事件 Tiananmen square protests 1989

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/tiananmen

Music!

  • Joan Baez - China

  • Philip Morgan - Blood is on the square

Tiananmen students sitting
Tank Man
Tiananmen crushed dead

法轮功 Falun Gong 1999 70M believer religion banned

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/falun-gong

Falun Gong Guangzhou
Falun Gong lady silenced

新疆改造中心 Xinjiang re-education camps 2018

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/xinjiang

Xinjiang prisoners sitting identified
Xinjiang prisoners march
Uyghur sale website
Xinjiang camp in camp

小熊维尼 Winnie the Pooh 2018

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/winnie-the-pooh

Xi Pooh Obama
Xi Abe Pooh
Xi Jinping heart

郝海东 Hao Haidong Chinese soccer superstar turns against the CCP 2020

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/hao-haidong

Hao Haidong kick

冠状病毒审查 Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/corona

Li Wenliang covid

基督迫害 Christian persecution 2018

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/christianity

Church demolition
Last Supper Mao
Pope CCP deal

LGBT权利 The suppression of homosexuality

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/gay-rights

Tiananmen lesbian kiss
Addicted bed

996.ICU

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/nine-nine-six-icu

996ICU

Gay Putin

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/gay-putin

Gay Putin

The poisoning of Alexei Navalny 2020

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/the-poisoning-of-alexei-navalny-2020

Navalny hospital sitting

Vajiralongkorn Hamtaro

https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/thai-king-hamtaro

Side by side comparison between Thai king Vajiralongkorn and Hamtaro
Thai king crop top

2. Mirrors of this page (此网页的镜像)

You can download the webpage locally from GitHub at: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/archive/gh-pages.zip

Media such as images are not stored in this repository, but rather at https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-media to keep the lightweight clone. That downloaded HTML will read images from that repository, e.g. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-media/master/Xi_Jinping_The_Governance_of_China_photo.jpg. But we’ve learnt after creating that maybe the raw.githubusercontent.com subdomain is censored: GitHub censored subdomains (GitHub 审查的子域). If anyone can confirm, we will start using another image provider by default.

Clone locally with Git using GitHub images:

git clone https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship
cd china-dictatorship
git checkout gh-pages
xdg-open README.html

Build it yourself:

bundle install
make
xdg-open README.html

Build and view the multipage version:

make multipage
xdg-open out/multipage/README.html

Build with GitLab served images:

git clone https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship
cd china-dictatorship
make MEDIA=MEDIA=https://gitlab.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-media/-/raw/master

Build with local images:

git clone https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship
git clone https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-media
cd china-dictatorship
make MEDIA=../china-dictatorship-media

or build to use GitLab images:

Given GitHub censored subdomains (GitHub 审查的子域), this might be the only way to view the images from China.

The cool thing about Git is that we can maintain several mirrors on multiple websites very easily:

  • https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship Canonical source and rendered output. If ever GitHub gov-takedowns (由其各自政府在某个国家审查的仓库的GitHub官方列表) we do this: Strategy if this repo gets added to GitHub gov-takedowns (如果此 repo 被添加到 GitHub gov-takedowns 中的策略)

  • https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-2 mirror in case they block just https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship, see also: Strategy if this repo gets added to GitHub gov-takedowns (如果此 repo 被添加到 GitHub gov-takedowns 中的策略). Active renaming in place due to [chinese-web-browser-censorship]

  • https://gitlab.com/cirosantilli/cirosantilli: a mirror just so that some interesting stuff will show up at https://gitlab.com/cirosantilli/cirosantilli. The policy is to transfer any [wumao] issues from there to https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship. Interestingly, #53 from that project because the second yandex.com hit for "六四事件" as of 2022/04/17, and the only one that is not yet censored in China entirely, which drives reasonable traffic (3500 hist / 2 weeks).

  • https://gitlab.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship

    • their gitlab.com render is shit for some reason, clicking on the ToC does not jump to headers properly, not sure why, IDs look correct

    • one really cool thing about gitlab is that it can serve images from directly gitlab.com e.g. https://gitlab.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-media/-/raw/master/Xi_Jinping_The_Governance_of_China_photo.jpg unlike GitHub which has the raw. subdomain: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-media/master/Xi_Jinping_The_Governance_of_China_photo.jpg This makes it impossible to block the GitLab images without blocking all of gitlab.com, until GitLab starts a gov-takedowns of their own.

    • https://cirosantilli.gitlab.io/china-dictatorship GitLab Pages. Works fine. Let’s see if they can block subdomains: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/cirosantilli.gitlab.io/china-dictatorship

    • Maybe some day https://gitlab.cn/ ? :-) Edit 2021-03, yup, it happened, with [icp-license] and all

      • https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2021/03/18/gitlab-licensed-technology-to-new-independent-chinese-company/

      • https://about.gitlab.cn/

      • Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的)'s name at: https://about.gitlab.cn/security/vulnerability-acknowledgements/

      • no free public SaaS yet, but it might come, though they are saying 30 day trial only: https://about.gitlab.cn/free-trial/

  • https://gitee.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship on Gitee, blocked after 12 hours: Gitee censorship (Gitee 审查)

  • https://bitbucket.org/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship

  • https://gitlab.binets.fr/ciro.duran-santilli/china-dictatorship: a GitLab instance run by and reserved for students and ex-students of École Polytechnique, in which Ciro Santilli previously studied. They also have a few Chinese students every year, that’s how Ciro met Ciro Santilli’s wife (三西猴的老婆), it will be fun when those students see this.

Mirrors controlled by other people, thus forming a type of Samizdat (Soviet underground propagation of censored materials, 秘密出版物, самиздат):

  • https://git.kiwifarms.net/CrunkLord420/china-dictatorship auto-pull Gitea mirror on Kiwi Farms, a politically incorrect social network website

  • https://china.vkoor.com/ presumably by https://github.com/Vkoor who is a collaborator of this project, e.g. cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#533. They’re also hosting a search engine proxy at https://www.vkoor.com/, TODO Google? See also: Google mirrors (谷歌镜像).

  • https://github.com/cheezcharmer/chinese-dictatorship: Ciro likes that this due actually changed the repository title, thus making it harder to auto-censor everything in one go

  • https://crabapi.cn by https://github.com/CrabTechs says name is 薛钰隆 and gives contact details and photo. Please by God be fake details. A .cn mirror, let’s see how long it lasts. Up: https://web.archive.org/web/20220517075452/https://crabapi.cn/ Down the following day. Twitter: https://twitter.com/CrabTechs_ Backlink from https://site.ip138.com/ and https://site.ip138.com/crabapi.cn to cirosantilli.com.

GitHub Pages: https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship trade-offs with https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship:

  • pros

    • cut up to 512KB of source, and therefor unacceptable as the only source: isaacs/github#1610

    • GitHub’s camo keeps hiccuping and not showing images

    • and YouTube videos show inline there

  • cons

    • domain will eventually get blocked in China. [greatfire] https://zh.greatfire.org/https/cirosantilli.com shows that in 2020-01-19 the domain was unblocked, but on the next text at 2020-05-23 it was "contradictory".

    • Camo bypasses the need for VPN, since most images are served from [wayback-machine] which is blocked in China.

It is really interesting to see how many people star the GitHub repository, and then a few minutes later they think about how they might get put in jail, and then unstar it. Talk about Chilling effect (寒蝉效应)! But yes, for the love of God, please stay safe: What should pro-democracy Chinese living in China do about the dictatorship? 想要民主住在中国大陆的人应该干什么?.

GitHub Pages was first enabled in 2020-03-22 at https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/commit/0b362a83fb5dd55f67b9d351551d0c18e7f3229a.

The perfect solution might be to download all images and upload them to https://github.com/cirosantilli/media since GitHub content does not go through Camo, we have to see if such images don’t fail to load as often.

A few NPM/Git CDNs can also be used to bypass subdomain blocks, and some actually render HTML with the correct content type. Lists of such CDNs:

  • https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8446218/how-to-see-an-html-page-on-github-as-a-normal-rendered-html-page-to-see-preview

  • https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6551446/can-i-run-html-files-directly-from-github-instead-of-just-viewing-their-source

Some we’ve found, with HTML content type:

  • https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/gh-pages/blob/index.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/htmlpreview.github.io%3Fhttps%3A//github_com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/gh-pages/blob/index_html%3D

  • https://www.unpkg.com/china-dictatorship@latest/README.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/www.unpkg.com/china-dictatorship%40latest/README.html

  • Blocked when last checked:

    • https://raw.githack.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/gh-pages/index.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/raw.githack.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/gh-pages/index.html blocked since 2021-05-20

    • https://cdn.statically.io/gh/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/gh-pages/index.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/cdn.statically.io/gh/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/gh-pages/index.html blocked since 2021-05-20

  • https://xenodochial-heisenberg-0fc0f1.netlify.app/ from https://www.netlify.com/. Auto sync with Git.

  • https://china-dictatorship.onrender.com/ from https://render.com/. Auto sync with Git.

  • https://china-dictatorship.web.app/ TODO get working, explained under "hosting": https://console.firebase.google.com/u/0/project/china-dictatorship/hosting/sites

Without HTML content type:

  • https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/gh-pages/index.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/raw.githubusercontent.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/gh-pages/index.html

  • https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/china-dictatorship@latest/README.html: https://zh.greatfire.org/https/cdn.jsdelivr.net/npm/china-dictatorship%40latest/README.html

We’ve also tried to use jsfiddle like-services, but most don’t work well:

  • https://jsfiddle.net/cirosantilli/0tL3ckqb/ very slow to load, but eventually does

  • https://jsbin.com/ HTML too long

  • https://codepen.io/ 1MB limit

List of such services: https://codysaylor.com/notes/comparing-codepen-jsfiddle-cssdeck-liveweave-jsbin-dabblet/

2.1. Software package mirrors (软件包管理器镜像)

We also have a NPM Node.js package https://www.npmjs.com/package/china-dictatorship. After installing NPM, you can be use it as:

npm i -g china-dictatorship
china-dictatorship > README.html

This forces China to also block/curate package managers to block this repo. The package is already available in the following NPM Chinese mirrors, both which were blocked at some point:

  • Taobao: https://registry.npm.taobao.org/china-dictatorship (archive).

    Noticed down as of 2021-02-23, replaced by a dummy package admined by [email protected] presumably https://github.com/fengmk2 and https://fengmk2.com/ and https://twitter.com/fengmk2 He is a large NPM contributor, and likely cnpm too. TODO is he pro or against [censorship] based on online comments?

    In order to overcome this, includers

  • Aliyun from [alibaba]: https://developer.aliyun.com/mirror/npm/package/china-dictatorship (archive).

    Taken down as 404 likely around 2021-02-22 after come incoming links from https://developer.aliyun.com to https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship?spm=a2c6h.14275010.0.0.60be9dc4vwIZTP and ?spm=.14275010.0.0.60be9dc4PsRmA.

There is actually a cnpm tool to install from Chinese mirrors: https://github.com/cnpm/cnpm.

We also managed to upload a Python PyPi package at: https://pypi.org/project/china-dictatorship/ Is as:

python3 -m pip install --user --upgrade china-dictatorship
china-dictatorship.py > README.html

Like NPM, this will also have Chinese mirrors that will need to be censored by their admins ovrview https://titanwolf.org/Network/Articles/Article?AID=25a20c20-c97b-4bfe-af67-760861343658 :

  • http://pypi.douban.com/simple/china-dictatorship/ vs http://pypi.douban.com/simple/numpy both up March 2021

  • http://mirrors.aliyun.com/pypi/simple/china-dictatorship/ vs http://mirrors.aliyun.com/pypi/simple/numpy both down March 2021 but in a different way, so maybe it was censored already

  • http://pypi.mirrors.opencas.cn/simple/china-dictatorship vs http://pypi.mirrors.opencas.cn/simple/numpy both down March 2021

  • http://pypi.v2ex.com/simple/china-dictatorship vs http://pypi.v2ex.com/simple/numpy both down March 2021

  • https://pypi.mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/simple/china-dictatorship vs https://pypi.mirrors.ustc.edu.cn/simple/numpy both up March 2021

  • reference: https://pypi.org/simple/china-dictatorship/ vs https://pypi.org/simple/numpy/

We later found on Google by chance that libraries.io picked it up and rendered the README.adoc nicely as well: https://libraries.io/pypi/china-dictatorship (archive). This is why packaging is a good idea.

A programmatic interface is also exposed on those packages, making it easy to quickly add a --china option to your project, e.g. from Python:

import china_dictatorship
assert "Tiananmen Square protests" in china_dictatorship.get_data()

print(china_dictatorship.get_data())

or from Node.js:

const china_dictatorship = require('china-dictatorship');
if (!china_dictatorship.get_data().includes("Tiannmen Square protests")) throw 0;

console.log(china_dictatorship.get_data());

You have to do the assert after the imports because otherwise Chinese mirrors could replace the real package with dummy packages to not break imports, as was already done once at https://registry.npm.taobao.org/china-dictatorship.

This outputs the rendered HTML, which end users should the pipe into a file:

./your-program --china > README.html
xdg-open README.html

Concrete examples:

  • https://cirosantilli.com/cirodown/china

  • https://github.com/cirosantilli/linux-kernel-module-cheat/commit/082166a360c56990662c715196229016d8806ab3

  • https://github.com/cirosantilli/vcdvcd#vcdcat-china. Sample forks removing the most important functionality:

    • https://github.com/ZihaoZhao/vcdvcd

    • https://github.com/riverlane/vcdvcd/commits/master by employee Seyed Amir Alavi of quantum computing company https://www.riverlane.com/ with commit "Removed politics from package dependencies of setup.py". Seyed appears to be Iranian.

    • https://github.com/snhobbs/vcdvcd/commit/d7124e49fb1c63002e830f8c866266447b0f5bb3 by https://www.linkedin.com/in/simonnhobbs/. To be fair, they left a star.

These also offer great plausible deniability: a citizen in China could always argue that they were just interested in the software itself, and had no choice but to download it.

TODO: create an Ubuntu PPA and Ruby gem as well.

Create tags,and update all mirrors in one go with: push-mirrors:

sudo apt install python3-setuptools
python3 -m pip install --user setuptools wheel twine
./push-mirrors

In particular, that script calls push:

./push

which is more lightweight and pushes just to GitHub and GitLab Pages, so we are going to be using that more often to avoid overloading package managers too much.

./push is used to publish every commit.

There is no need to update package versions or add git tags, all of that gets done automatically by the script!

See also: Protestware.

2.1.1. GitHub proxies (GitHub的代理)

Another source of China-specific mirroring of this project are GitHub proxies, https://linuxpip.org/github-in-china/ contains an overview:

  • https://hub.fastgit.org/ this appears to auto-redirect to GitHub from non-Chinese IPs, but presumably shows the pages for Chinese IPs, e.g. we had hits from http://hub.fastgit.org/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship in 2021-03-25. This happened soon after SEO optimizations mentioned at: Zhao Heming (召赫名) and might be related.

  • https://github.com.cnpmjs.org/ as of March 2021, it often reaches an apparently random "Whoa there! You have triggered an abuse detection mechanism.". But other time it succeeds, e.g. some of the times: https://github.com.cnpmjs.org/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship is visible.

  • https://a1.mk-proxy.ml/-----https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship generated from http://toolwa.com/github/

  • https://github.com/521xueweihan/GitHub520

  • https://github-dotcom.gateway.web.tr/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship a Turkish proxy. They have their own censorship issues as well of course.

  • https://phoenix.yizimg.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship Not sure origin, https://web.archive.org/web/20200221135123/http://www.yizimg.com:80/ has a little bit of information

  • using Cloudflare workers:

    • https://github.independentlyreview.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship described at https://independentlyreview.com/link as using Cloudfare workers

    • https://github.laobiao.workers.dev/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship

    • https://github.rc1844.workers.dev/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship

Related: * https://gitmemory.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship appears to be Chinese: https://www.reddit.com/r/github/comments/iiolp8/what_the_hell_is_gitmemorycom/

3. GitHub repositories with censored information (政治敏感的GitHub库)

For lists of censored information outside of GitHub see: [lists-of-material-censored-in-china].

For content outside of GitHub: [lists-of-material-censored-in-china].

Mentioned in other sections:

  • gov-takedowns/China (由中共在国审查的库仓的GitHub官方列表)

  • [nine-nine-six-icu]

  • nCovMemory

  • bandinchina GitHub repository

  • https://github.com/jasonqng/chinese-keywords mentioned at Where can I find good words for a keyword attack? (我在哪里可以找到关键字攻击的好词?)

  • https://github.com/programthink/zhao from [programthink]

  • [censorship-monitoring-tools-on-github]

  • [huawei]:

    • https://github.com/evil-huawei/evil-huawei

    • https://github.com/HuaweiJoke/Huawei-Joke

  • https://github.com/fuck-xuexiqiangguo/Fuck-XueXiQiangGuo from [fuck-xuexiqiangguo]

    • https://github.com/IanSmith123/ucas-covid19

  • from [metoo]

    • https://github.com/sikaozhe1997/Xin-Yue/blob/master/letter.md see [yue-xin]

    • https://github.com/CNwoman-bot/evil-man from [evil-man]

  • https://github.com/fuckcqcs/fuckcqcs at [changsheng-bio-technology-vaccine-data-falsification-incident-2018]

  • [xi-jinping-speech-synthesizer]

  • https://github.com/zhangrunxu/zhangrunxu.github.io from [xu-zhangrun]

  • [anti-video-game-ban-tools]

  • https://github.com/hmsjy2017/Google-Mirrors from Google mirrors (谷歌镜像)

Not mentioned in other sections:

  • taibangle (太棒了)

    • https://github.com/taibangle/awesome-china

    • https://github.com/taibangle/lennon-wall

  • https://github.com/Project-Gutenberg/Pincong see also [pincong]

  • https://speechfree.github.io/cultural-revolution-database/ 中国文化大革命文库 The Chinese Cultural Revolution Database

  • https://github.com/Luterngun/Record_of_Survival_in_Digital_Totalitarian_Era small docuement that goes over [censorship-circumvention] and opsec. There was a PDF on GitHub but got removed from master (still in Git history), now links to external websites only. Newbs.

  • https://github.com/nodebe4 personal account with anti-CCP projects

    • https://twitter.com/tansunit claims name 陳純一, "Previous: NGO worker, educator, social activist. Present: Master student @Univ_Paris"

    • https://github.com/NodeBE4/hero 自由人的英雄榜 "List of fredom heroes"

    • https://github.com/NodeBE4/impact good list of Chinese political projects on GitHub

  • https://github.com/woct0rdho/pkuholebackup/ appears to contain a list of posts of anonymized (Alice/Bob/Carol/Dave/…​) deleted posts from some Peking University (PKU) chat system. The posts are from 2013 to 2019. TODO how could they obtain that list? Who delete the posts in the first place? Authors or authority?

  • https://github.com/ejiaogl/FuckCoolapk TODO understand better: in 2016 this company started blocking political commentary from their app, and people didn’t like it seems. But there were so many complaints, that people manipulated things such that they ended up banning accounts that hadn’t posted anything. What does that GitHub project do?

    • 酷安 is the company name: https://www.coolapk.com/

    • https://github.com/ejiaogl/FuckCoolapk/wiki/Background-information "316"事件 (316 event)

    • https://www.zhihu.com/question/20658510

  • https://github.com/xi-yu-yan-kai-fa/Xi-Yuyan/tree/f8364a8b8f1d783e4fa32de548bec46069407c1b 习语言 esoteric programming language that mimics [xi-jinping] jargon natural language. Appears to be specification only, no implementation provided.

    • on gov-takedowns/China (由中共在国审查的库仓的GitHub官方列表): https://github.com/github/gov-takedowns/blob/master/China/2021/2021-01-29-BNIA.md

Interesting users:

  • https://github.com/gfw-breaker

    • appears to give a lot of focus to [falun-gong], e.g.:

      • https://github.com/gfw-breaker/truth Falun Gong information repository

      • https://github.com/gfw-breaker/banned-news1 automatic scraper of news from banned websites into the repository, with top sites being [falun-gong-media]

    • present in gov-takedowns/China (由中共在国审查的库仓的GitHub官方列表)

  • https://github.com/bannedbook

    • https://github.com/bannedbook/fanqiang is the main repository about [censorship-circumvention], TODO what it contains exactly? Code, or just documentation of existing methods?

  • https://github.com/breakwa11 likely previous ShadowsocksR dev: [censorship-circumvention], 10k+ followers 2020, but no repos, so forced takedown.

Non-information but also interesting:

  • https://github.com/lurongkai/anti-baidu

TODO evaluate:

  • https://github.com/sky8964/home

  • https://github.com/FuckAntiAddiction/BiligameAddictionNotLimited is this a repo to overcome [video-game-ban]?

  • https://github.com/jdzj/log/issues/24

  • dropod/issues#6675 some kind of backup bot from other websites

Reasonable topics:

  • https://github.com/topics/censorship

3.1. github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship

https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship

Canonical source code of: https://cirosantilli.com/china-dictatorship/

3.2. Terminus2049 (端点星计划, 2049bbs)

  • https://github.com/Terminus2049/Terminus2049.github.io

  • https://terminus2049.github.io/

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/端点星事件

  • https://2049bbs.xyz/

  • previous project name: https://github.com/Info-cn/Terminus

Jekyll GitHub Pages repository that saves full text copies of censored articles:

本仓库存放被删文章

This repository stores deleted articles.

Also accompanies a dynamic forum https://2049bbs.xyz/ which appears to be where content for the static pages gets discussed and brought up. But it possible that the website has been compromised and is leaking identity of users. At some point, https://2049bbs.xyz went down. Live https://web.archive.org/web/20200719151022/https://2049bbs.xyz/ dead: https://archive.vn/JFqCJ

The "Terminus" in the repo name seems to be a reference to Isaac Asimov’s fictional Terminus planet which is called 端点星 in Chinese, but it is not clear where the 2049 comes from in that context. Forgetting the Chinese name, Terminus2049 could be a reference to the fictional "World War Terminus" from the Blade Runner 2049 (2019) movie, which also explains the 2049.

First commit on 2018-04-27, GitHub pages domain blocked in China at least since 2019-03 according to [greatfire]: https://zh.greatfire.org/search/all/https%3A//terminus2049.github.io but not in GitHub gov-takedowns (由其各自政府在某个国家审查的仓库的GitHub官方列表) as of 2020-04.

The full post list can be seen most conveniently at: https://github.com/Terminus2049/Terminus2049.github.io/tree/master/_posts The number of articles is insane, usually several every day.

Most articles appear to be taken from recent news at the time of writting, although there are a few from before the repo started. As of 2020-04, the oldest article was from 2016 [metoo] events reported by [yue-xin], some other topics include:

  • [gay-rights] https://github.com/Terminus2049/Terminus2049.github.io/blob/master/_posts/2018-04-14-LGBTRights-advocacy-china.md

  • [nine-nine-six-icu] https://github.com/Terminus2049/Terminus2049.github.io/blob/master/_posts/2019-04-04-996-ICU.md

  • [lebron-james-opposes-hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019] https://github.com/Terminus2049/Terminus2049.github.io/blob/master/_posts/2019-10-11-NBA.md

They use Jekyll tags a lot, which makes for a good grouping of the topics.

In 2020-04-25, it was reported that three Beijing-based contributors were arrested during Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查):

  • https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3081569/chinese-activists-detained-after-sharing-censored-coronavirus

  • https://www.rfa.org/mandarin/Xinwen/7-04252020144555.html Chinese article, gives the Chinese names, and some background on the arrested people

  • https://qz.com/1846277/china-arrests-users-behind-github-coronavirus-memories-page/

People:

  • Chen Mei (陈玫)

    • https://www.linkedin.com/in/玫-陈-1607b735/ a LinkedIn account with matching photo and name

    • [email protected]

    • https://github.com/cmmei, down 2020-12, live archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20200101232039/https://github.com/cmmei. Includes https://web.archive.org/web/20180611153507/https://github.com/cmmei/Banned-zh

  • Cai Wei (蔡伟)

    • https://github.com/thphd/2047 mentioned below reveals and email [email protected] and profiles/further aliases:

      • https://github.com/Tsai1993

      • https://tsai1993.github.io

      • https://mastodon.xyz/@ciao

      • [email protected]

      • [email protected]

  • Xiao Tang (小唐), who is also Cai Wei’s girlfriend

In 2020-06-12 their families received calls saying that they had been charged with [picking-quarrels]:

  • https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3089002/coronavirus-chinese-activists-held-posting-censored-articles

  • https://www.rfa.org/mandarin/Xinwen/10-06122020154234.html

In 2021-05-11 they were charged: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/11/two-plead-guilty-in-case-highlighting-chinas-online-control

Ciro’s petition to free them: https://github.com/cirosantilli/chen-mei-cai-wei-ziyou

How their identities were found:

  • Terminus2049/Terminus2049.github.io#598 offers a good analysis

  • https://pincong.rocks/question/24370

  • https://gist.github.com/chinatimeline/5386a4f9d82483aa5346b17d8d324877 comments by chinatimeline (中国时间线) and gives further opsec guidelines

Terrible opsec…​ they used real name GitHub emails on early commits, including the institutional university address, before they started better opsec under https://github.com/TerminusBot / [email protected]

https://github.com/thphd/2047 is a project to restore terminus, live at https://2047.name Ciro mention at: https://2047.name/e/76182458 by https://2047.name/u/5155 which is similar to a [mohu] mention, so they seem to share the database? Who knows what’s the relation between all those [pincong] lookalikes. TODO that website shows an [icp-license]? Very confusingly also mirrored at https://pincong.org e.g. https://pincong.org/t/10219/https://2047.name/t/10219[], which is very similar to [pincong]'s address. Related account: https://github.com/PincongBot

https://2047.name has a links section at: https://2047.name/links shown on the sideboard, containg links of interest. Some all not are very China specific.

https://2047.name/register registration requires an invitation code.

https://github.com/2049bbs/2049bbs.github.io / https://2049bbs.github.io/ maintains another archive up to 2019-03-03.

Chenmei Caowei
Figure 1. Side-by-side photos of Chen Mei (陈玫) and Cai Wei (蔡伟) from Terminus2049 (端点星计划, 2049bbs). Source.

3.3. chinatimeline (中国时间线)

https://github.com/chinatimeline/chinatimeline.github.io

Explores several sensitive topics through interesting timelines with many pictures, for example:

  • [tiananmen]: https://chinatimeline.github.io/tiananmen/

  • Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查): https://chinatimeline.github.io/wuhan-coronavirus/

  • religious persecution, including [falun-gong]: https://chinatimeline.github.io/religion_tl1/

Some minor relationships with Terminus2049 (端点星计划, 2049bbs):

  • chinatimeline/chinatimeline.github.io#3

  • https://gist.github.com/chinatimeline/5386a4f9d82483aa5346b17d8d324877

3.4. duty-machine GitHub account (责任机器GitHub用户)

https://github.com/duty-machine

Anonymous user with automation setup such that anyone can request certain webpages to be copied on to GitHub anonymously through a separate website, notably:

  • https://github.com/duty-machine/duty-machine: big Chinese social media, e.g. [weibo], Zhihu (知乎, censored Quora clone, 审查 Quora 克隆), Douban. Articles stored in issues. Archive requests: https://archives.duty-machine.now.sh/

  • https://github.com/duty-machine/news: big Western news websites like Reuters, BBC, etc. Articles stored in-tree.

The project claims to have been inspired by Terminus2049 (端点星计划, 2049bbs), but hopefully they will have better operational security.

Unfortunately, it was found that the project could be used by malicious users to at mention spam GitHub users: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#192, let’s see if they patch it. Edit: the did.

3.4.1. duty-machine porn attack (责任机器色情攻击)

https://github.com/duty-machine/duty-machine/tree/d6ee9ff8e504b863352f163f7e143e84161ac349 explains that the automatic submission had to be taken down because [wumao] uploaded porn which is against GitHub’s content policy.

Related idiotic attempt on [china-dictatorship] project: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues/500 where user crazy3523 uploaded some of Ciro’s own existing anti-China images, and tried to pretend to be anti-CCP, and slipped a few child porn softcore in the middle hoping Ciro wouldn’t see them. Their email was <[email protected]>. They even went as far as creating another apparently anti-CCP post at: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#386 previously.

This likely led the repository to be added to GitHub "This repository may contain objectionable content" (此仓库可能包含令人反感的内容).

This highlights the following ideas:

  • it is impossible to have uncurated anyonymous content on GitHub

  • censorship of non-political issues can seep into censorship of political issues

3.5. Zhao Heming (召赫名)

A few accounts were created by this pseudonym, e.g.:

  • https://github.com/zaohmeing/21-: https://github.com/zaohmeing/21-/blob/master/.gitignore

  • https://github.com/zhaohmng/-21-: https://github.com/zhaohmng/-21-/blob/master/%231a.txt The repository was deleted as of March 2021, TODO why?

    • Ciro’s fork: https://github.com/cirosantilli/-21-

    • archive from December 2020: https://web.archive.org/web/20201225094655/https://github.com/zhaohmng/-21-

  • https://github.com/zhaohmng-outlook-com/21-

Much more sanely encoded/formatted/rendered versions can be found at:

  • https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/master/赫连禾-21世纪新政宣言.md. Copied from https://matters.news/@halanh/网传70岁赫连禾用大半生研究构建-21世纪新政-引发专家们高度关注-bafyreihnbf6jyzvwyybwl5hym2nikj5zrpwxli6nphzylvdq6btsbydn3y

  • https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/master/郝雪森-三朝罪恶元凶王沪宁.adoc. Copied from: https://matters.news/@halanh/三朝罪恶元凶王沪宁-bafyreifrjf5ce45fqpif4nms4x72mlrbyijs7bffqi7f7sng47fuelkhmm

Both Zhao Heming repos contain reproductions of two manifestos are pasted together on a single file, and somewhat broken encoding.

Ciro noticed that thoe repos attracted an incredible ammount of [wumao] on the comments, despite having very simple copy pasted content, it was very impressive!!! Ciro was jealous, and added some anti-wumao comments in. On commits:

  • https://github.com/zhaohmng/-21-/commit/0cc2b2a546ad51fb360ba800c67b057ea3270869#commitcomment-47495235

  • https://github.com/zaohmeing/21-/commit/42de05338193f39981b1a820873a990c959fd6ec#commitcomment-47392119

zhaohmng/-21-#416 (comment) "为什么这个屎一样的东西会出现在我个人主页左侧的repositories中,那里不是应该只有自己的项目才会出现吗?有办法屏蔽它吗?还是github故意的?" explains why so many people come comment in the repository: it is because it appears on the "Explore repositories" repository suggestions which show on the side bar of your GitHub homepage, and on searches. This was also mentioned at: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#201 originally titled " 一搜索中文就跑出这屌鬼玩意,爱玩政治去竞选总统啊,笨,死扑街". Ciro feels that that Chinese people might use GitHub search much more than Western people because their search engines are shit due to [censorship], Censorship makes countries poorer (审查使国家更穷) comes vibrantly to mind.

After further inspection, taught understood that repository descriptions given to GitHub can be really huge for SEO: they had pasted the entire 21st century text there.

So Ciro attempted the same approach, and pasted all of https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/master/赫连禾-21世纪新政宣言.md, https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/master/郝雪森-三朝罪恶元凶王沪宁.adoc and https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/blob/master/魏京生-第五个现代化.md in there on 2021-03-23, and the effect was dramatic: an immediate 4x more views on the following day according to https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/graphs/traffic (40 unique visitors to 100 on a Wednesday), and a few wumao comments. And a wumao soon confirmed that it was working directly: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#201.

Ciro believes that this is due to two reasons:

  • there aren’t so many good Chinese repositories to compete with

  • perhaps more importantly, Chinese language does not have spaces, which makes implementing search for it more difficult, because if you hit all the characters, even if they are not part of the search words, it also gets counted as a hit

This can be automated with: description.sh.

Further optimizations using description by using GitHub-Chinese-Top-Charts (GitHub中文排行榜):

git clone https://github.com/kon9chunkit/GitHub-Chinese-Top-Charts
./description

this does some processing to increase density creates a BOMB:

Ciro started using that one instead to see if it was going to be more effective on 2021-03-28. First it hit a peak of 168 visitors on Monday 2021-03-29, and then fell back to 90 and 81 on the following days, so similar to the previous Chinese political input. It is very hard to understand why the first day was so different.

It also includes:

  • https://github.com/trending?since=monthly&spoken_language_code=zh trending Chinese repositories

    A large part of those projects falls in the following categories:

    • interview preparation. Competition is of course cutthroat with such a large population.

    • collections of interesting things Chinese like repositories or blog posts

      but it also does feel like China might be building up more basic infrastructure as open source than in the west, where things developped closed source first on pre-Internet days, and somewhat stayed that way. That’s a cool thing about China.

Furthermore, Ciro later noticed that under GitHub’s settings, there is a "Preferred spoken language" box described as "We’ll use this language preference to filter the trending repository lists on Explore and our Trending Repositories page." Therefore, the secret to get lots of hits is to add Chinese programming keywords to the repository description string.

New issues:

  • zhaohmng/-21-#533 "Thank you for this great repository. Human rights and freedom of speech are more important than money. github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship"

  • zaohmeing/21-#138 "Why put the censored content in the .gitignore?"

On top commented/liked issues:

  • zhaohmng/-21-#190 (comment)

  • zhaohmng/-21-#224 (comment)

  • zhaohmng/-21-#319 (comment)

  • zhaohmng/-21-#325 (comment) "看你发的“美中”而不是“中美”我就知道你TM是轮子" claims they are [falun-gong]

  • zhaohmng/-21-#346 (comment) "那么问题来了,为什么美国及西方和越南共产党亲近呢?" the US allies with Vietnam Communists for geopolitical reasons only, not because it has any ideology

The first is "21世纪新政宣言" (New System Declaration for the 21st Century).

It proposes a peaceful reunification of China with Taiwan (Republic of China, 台湾, 中華民國) under their specified political system described in 12 paragraphs. This system is a reformed type of Western democracy, which the manifesto also criticize downsides of.

The manifesto is dated drafted 2019.8.6, and several versions have different update dates and revision numbers, e.g. our copy is dated 7th edition of 2020.6.19. TODO what is canonical?

The manifesto provides an email "[email protected]" for those who signed it to send the signed version to, and describes the author as male 70 years old Chinese person.

TODO what does: "起草人:赫连禾" mean?

The second is "三朝罪恶元凶王沪宁" (The Culprit of Three Dynasties Wang Huning).

The title presumably refers to:

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Huning

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/王沪宁

Wikipedia mentions:

Wang is believed to have been one of the principal architects behind the official political ideologies of three paramount leaders: "Three Represents" by Jiang Zemin, the Scientific Development Concept by Hu Jintao, and the Chinese Dream and [xi-jinping-thought] of Xi Jinping.

so it must be about him.

The manifesto is divided into 23 numbered headers which appear to be independently published texts later collected. It is signed by 郝雪森 (Hao Xuesen) 2016-09-10. One of the sections gives the email: [email protected][].

Related:

  • 2022-03-14 https://91ai.net/thread-983734-1-1.html 真是遇了狗了搜播放器 搜到个狗 One of the comments suggests that the sponsors are a considerable ammount. Poor newbie, Ciro’s sponsors are 20 dollars/month as of writing in 2022. Related: [ccp-apologists].

  • https://github.com/github/feedback/discussions/12800 Polluted search results by ThebestkillerTBK

  • community/community#18862 by https://github.com/LyLme

3.6. Bot + issue mention attack

In March 2021, this repo had a traffic search spike for: "Search · 联级选择器"

This term refers to https://ant.design/components/cascader-cn/ which seems to be a CSS live selector

The related project: https://github.com/ant-design/ant-design-pro

Someone actually used wumao techniques mentioned at:

  • cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#191

  • cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#192

to attack that repo:

  • ant-design/ant-design-pro#8133 https://archive.ph/xp8ls

  • cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#196 https://archive.ph/etYSf

TODO which exact GitHub action did they rely on? That repo currently has a https://github.com/ant-design/ant-design-pro/actions/workflows/issue-open-check.yml Issue Open Check GitHub action sample run: https://github.com/ant-design/ant-design-pro/runs/2209272410?check_suite_focus=true we see the similarity issue analysis thing, but how could that have worked more precisely to link across repos? Asked at: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#203

3.7. Wumao GitHub repos (由五毛的GitHub库)

Not in other setions:

  • https://github.com/Sherlockcxk/counter-terrorism

  • https://github.com/yangxiangquan/fuhaisun contains some evil west issues: https://github.com/yangxiangquan/fuhaisun/issues

In other sections:

  • https://github.com/boycott-fuck-xuexiqiangguo/Boycott-Fuck-XueXiQiangGuo from [xuexi-qiangguo]

Related:

  • https://github.com/wumaoland from Ciro Santilli’s reply policy (三西猴的回答政策)

  • https://github.com/SBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSBSB followed Ciro, coon after cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#671

  • Ciro Santilli spoof accounts:

    • https://github.com/cirosantillifather, e.g. programthink/books#94 at (archive)

      On 2021-09-23 Ciro Santilli received this email from [email protected] "Hello son: I like your wife very much, can you let her have a one-night stand with me?". https://github.com/cirosantillifather had been deleted at that point.

    • https://github.com/cirowayne (e.g. archive) possible new account

    • https://github.com/AlstonScott programthink/zhao#428 was using Ciro’s profile picture: https://archive.ph/K59TN

    • https://github.com/Ciro-Santilli-NMSL 我在你爸坟头骨灰拌饭 https://archive.ph/5iVR2

  • https://github.com/wumaoland/MaoZeDongAnthology of our great ex-leader, [mao-zedong]!

4. FAQ (常见问答集)

4.1. Why attack websites with censored keywords? (用审查词攻击网站有什么用呢?)

The attack: Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击).

To destroy the firewall.

This would then end [censorship].

And then Ciro believes that this would also end the dictatorship.

The keyword attacks increase the cost of censorship.

If commies censor things, they will get worse IT technology, and thus become less rich and militarily powerful.

Since all they care about, like any other politicians, is power, the only way to make them stop censorship is to make the cost of censorship higher than not censoring.

Without the threat that China will be less technologically, and therefore militarily advanced, there is no incentive for the CCP to destroy the firewall.

The goal is to put them in a position where they have to choose between either:

  • having military power

  • remaining a dictatorship

but not both, since having both means that they will start WW3 and destroy humanity.

And if they decide to destroy the dictatorship, Ciro wants to help China become the most awesome country on Earth.

Closely related/identical ideas are Cute cat theory of digital activism (可爱猫理论) and Collateral Freedom (依附的自由).

Related attack: Photobombing-like attacks.

4.1.1. Does Ciro Santilli want to harm the Chinese programmers? 三西猴想要伤害中国程序员吗?

No.

This is not a revenge of any kind.

Ciro knows that he is harming you in the short term, and he doesn’t like that.

But he believes that this harm is a necessary means to reach his real goal, which is to destroy the firewall, and the dictatorship.

Don’t you think it is worth a try? Destroying the firewall, would enormously benefit not only Chinese programmers, but every single other Chinese person too.

Once the firewall is destroyed, which may destroy the dictatorship, he want China to develop the best science and technology in the world, and Would Ciro Santilli like to live in China? (三西猴想住在中国吗?).

And by the way, with his extensive contributions to open source software, Ciro is already helping China, and all underdeveloped countries, to become stronger. His hope is that if poor countries become richer and better educated, that they will be less likely to be influenced by the CCP’s money, and therefore are more likely to be allies of democracy.

See also: Keyword attack profiles disturb me (关键字攻击个人资料页打扰我).

4.1.1.1. Does Ciro Santilli want to make the Chinese people people look bad? (三西猴是想让中国人脸色不好?)

No, the opposite.

Ciro only wants their dictatorial government to look bad to destroy it, and help China become the most awesome country on Earth.

Even the Chinese that are against their own Government cannot do much about it openly, so it is not their fault.

And even those who supported their dictatorship must be respected, whoever stupid and brainwashed you might think they are, since it is impossible to prove who is right or wrong in politics.

See also: [about].

4.1.2. Does Ciro Santilli think that the Chinese are stupid or brainwashed? (三西猴觉得中国人是傻子或是被洗脑了吗?)

Obviously not, if you even thought about this, it is likely because of: The CCP exaggerates the threat of the West to keep in power (中共夸大了西方要继续掌权的威胁).

Don’t you see that this is just pure and simple politics? And likely ineffective one at that: Will the keyword attacks really help to destroy the firewall? (关键字攻击真的有助于破坏防火墙吗?).

  • everyone is brainwashed by their environment: brainwashed

  • it is impossible to prove who is right or wrong in politics: [democracy-is-a-religion]

  • not even the CCP is evil: Is the Chinese government evil? (中国共产党是邪恶的吗?)

Related:

  • [young-pioneers-of-china]

  • Little pink explains the difference between the American dream and the Chinese dream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2ncGTvkxDQ How does propaganda change our beliefs? by Etienne Augé (2021). At: https://youtu.be/K2ncGTvkxDQ?t=139 he mentions his 6 principles of propaganda, the first of which is that it should be undetected. As soon as Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) saw that, he changed the description of this repository from "Anti-Chinese government information." to "Anti-Chinese government propaganda.".

4.1.3. Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击)

A keyword consists of adding censored words to your username: https://stackoverflow.com/users/895245

This only works on websites that show usernames everywhere.

This then leads to your username appearing on thousands of pages, depending on how much you contribute to the website.

It is also possible to do it with images, although this is less effective in taking down websites since images are harder for the firewall to track automatically. But:

  • they are more memorable than words

  • they also work on websites like GitHub where your real name does not show on most pages, only slug

so maybe the most effective approach is to use both keywords and images to get the best of both worlds ;-)

This type of attack is essentially an Embargoes make dictatorships stronger (禁运使独裁更强大), and it is especially effective in websites that contain valuable technical content, such as Stack Overflow and GitHub.

See also:

  • Photobombing-like attacks.

  • 2021-06-03 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/03/free-hong-kong-road-budapest-renames-streets-to-frustrate-chinese-campus-plan "Free Hong Kong Road: Budapest renames streets to frustrate Chinese campus plan"

Some non-screen name ones: * https://tatoeba.org/en/sentences/show/6620655, that site is open source BTW, great initiative: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2

Some people say don’t shift where you eat. Ciro says: bring a shitbucket to the canteen, and start a shitfight.

Chrysanthemum Xi Jinping with black red liusi added by Ciro Santilli
Figure 2. [chrysanthemium-xi-jinping] has been used by Ciro Santilli as a profile picture censored image attack

4.1.4. Cute cat theory of digital activism (可爱猫理论)

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cute_cat_theory_of_digital_activism

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/可愛貓理論

Someone told Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) a while after he had started doing his Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击) on Stack Overflow, he didn’t know about it before, but it is basically what he was doing.

You can never invent anything new anymore nowadays!

This is especially relevant to GitHub! And GitHub’s mascot is also a cat ;-) Some mentions of this:

  • 2020-09-09 https://www.wired.com/story/china-github-free-speech-covid-information/

  • 2020-09-09 https://www.xataka.com/servicios/github-inesperado-ultimo-reducto-libertad-expresion-gran-firewall-que-pone-jaque-intereses-china

Related:

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_activism

4.1.4.1. Anti-CCP content in the Bitcoin blockchain (在比特币区块链的反中共内容)

Blockchain technologies, such as Bitcoin, provide essentially uncensorable (at a transaction cost), because the messages are put together with financial transactions which are extremely valuable to its users.

As mentioned by Dan Kaminsky at: https://cirosantilli.com/cool-data-embedded-in-the-bitcoin-blockchain/len-sassaman-tribute#video-black-ops-of-tcp-ip-by-dan-kaminsky-2011 this forms a type of Samizdat (Soviet underground propagation of censored materials, 秘密出版物, самиздат).

Services that can be used to easily view this data online include:

  • http://bitfossil.org/ is a website that indexes especially formatted images uploaded to the blockchaian.

  • https://bitcoinstrings.com/ dumps all ASCII printable strings of length 20 ore more online

We have been able to find the following anti-CCP information in the blockchain so far:

  • http://bitfossil.org/fe0dfa51337dfce616a0e0305d10eed867e56a9f0f006b0521ec1ea32851a342/index.htm from 2014 is about the [hong-kong] 2014 protests. It contains text and images in the AtomSea & EMBII format. Part of the text is ripped from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-29421909 "Hong Kong democracy protesters defiant on National Day Tens of thousands of people have been blocking parts of the city for days."

  • 2017 blk00776.txt transaction 3845e630032578cb825d587b759eb499511d691f93962f4b9f5b2e06ef9570c7 says:

    Tiananmen massacre ←-- I dare China to censor this.

  • 2017 blk00808.txt transaction 91b9b44532e094522e905012c04f207df1bcad8d9df7232679cb16859a008bdd (TODO why not visible at https://bitcoinstrings.com/blk00808.txt) contains a full text reproduction of: https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/06/01/china-tell-truth-about-tiananmen-anniversary "China: Tell the Truth About Tiananmen on Anniversary" from [human-rights-watch]. The text is preceeded by a Chinese version of the same.

  • ca4f11131eca6b4d61daf707a470cfccd1ef3d80a6f8b70f1f07616b451ca64e from 2017 contains an image of [tank-man] encoded as standard transaction SHAs. The image is mentioned at: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/191157608/#q191162145 with indexer URL https://cryptograffiti.info/#ca4f11131eca6b4d61daf707a470cfccd1ef3d80a6f8b70f1f07616b451ca64e.jpg but that link is not working

But of course, there are crypto-[wumao]'s there too!!! The incongruence of a dictatorship and uncensorability is just mind blowing:

  • 2016 transaction 4921ae59b6ca89c2cd78e3d0850abd657f88a3ecc13c9c667872bf2740841dee, by a miner who earned 12 BTC:

    South China Sea belongs to China-pc

Neutral references:

  • blk01341.txt tx 3d2226aa2591acfb0d3c9206b9bb2058b0a488ad6d0e9c61e0c8f3c53d0d4b90 "EW Hello Xi Jingping" (mispelled). "EW" is a service identifier, not part of the message.

On the test blockchain (boring!):

  • Tankman on the Bitcoin testnet http://bitfossil.org/64b4e3c5610b421ef254d0a57c92642bd97cce3675d5afdd81e73a651a04db20/index.htm

Bibliography:

  • https://www.vice.com/en/article/z43xx4/love-is-forever-when-its-written-in-the-blockchain

Other blockchains:

  • 2019-02-25 https://theconversation.com/chinese-internet-users-turn-to-the-blockchain-to-fight-against-government-censorship-111795 "Chinese internet users turn to the blockchain to fight against government censorship" mentions the insertion of the Yue Xin letter and [changsheng-bio-technology-vaccine-data-falsification-incident-2018] information in the Ethereum blockchain. This gives the transaction in the screenshot: https://www.scmp.com/abacus/culture/article/3028662/chinas-netizens-use-blockchain-spread-censored-news

4.1.4.2. Collateral Freedom (依附的自由)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collateral_freedom

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/依附的自由

[greatfire] people called a Cute cat theory of digital activism (可爱猫理论)-related project of theirs "Collateral Freedom" (a reference to collateral damage), in which they seem to be trying to forward censored websites somehow through AWS to force the Chinese Government to block the entire AWS in China:

Collateral Freedom ties access to information to the Chinese economy. If [authorities] truly want to block access to this information, then they must give up certain access to economic freedoms.

At some point the Wikipedia page was created, but the concept was largely publicized by Greatfire most likely, although it might have been older. It is also not obvious that it satisfiers notability requirements of Wikipedia as of 2021.

2015 coverage: https://techcrunch.com/2015/03/30/greatfire/

There’s an useless Wiki page for that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collateral_freedom

https://www.theregister.com/2019/05/10/amazon_backtracks_on_s3/ clarifies that on Amazon S3 the question is about:

  • https://s3.amazonaws.com/<bucket_name>/<object_key_name>;

  • https://.s3.amazonaws.com/;

the second of which can be easily blocked by domain, but the first can’t, and how amazon was planning on killing the first option.

4.1.4.3. Protestware

Notably our Software package mirrors (软件包管理器镜像):

  • https://github.com/open-source-peace/protestware-list

  • https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/27/protestware-code-sabotage/

4.1.4.4. Dual-use technology (军民两用技术)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-use_technology

Normally, the term "dual-use technology" is used in the context of blocking exports that can be used either for peace, but also for war.

However, as mentioned by a Twitter friend, a Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击) for Freedom of Speech is also essentially a dual-use matter.

  • [western-companies-that-sell-censorship-technology-to-dictatorships]

4.1.5. Slacktivism (懒人行动主义)

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slacktivism

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/懒人行动主义

Also related: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-support-the-current-thing

4.2. Politics should not be posted in technical websites such as GitHub or Stack Overflow 不应该在技术网站例如Stack Overflow和GitHub讨论政治

So, where do you propose politics be posted? On Facebook or Twitter, which are already blocked by the [gfw]? Or maybe on [weibo], where it will be taken down within seconds due to internal censorship?

Is the Chinese government using the Internet the way it was meant to be used, by investing billions in [censorship]?

What about [nine-nine-six-icu]? Did you also complain about it, or did you just star it like 250k of your fellow programmers?

Any act of protest will use things in ways that it was not meant to be used.

For example, the street is not meant to showcase protest banners, it is meant to be a passageway for cars.

As engineers, we have a moral responsibility towards society. We should not blindly follow orders of those in power if it violates our principles, e.g. build weapons or censorship mechanisms. And we should freely express our principles and violation concerns.

Making a statement where no one will ever see it, like a personal website, is sure to have no effect.

Much of the best art and technology is about using something in a way that it wasn’t meant to be used.

Finally, the political powers of each website decide what is allowed or not on their website, and what is not allowed gets blocked. So far, Stack Overflow and GitHub’s Terms of Service have said to go ahead:

  • Stack Overflow

  • GitHub

Another consideration is that any profile information is essentially a form of advertisement. Some people advertise their skills for hire, or their company and product. Other people, advertise their religion or sexual orientation. So why should you not be able to advertise your political position? Companies pay millions of dollars to grab other people’s attention. Ciro feels it is much fairer to instead pay for those ads with your labour of love.

[programthink] has, of course, a beautiful reply to this at https://github.com/programthink/zhao/tree/e8eea46424549c11792dfe61cf9e7698bdbd7240#致反对此项目的墙内程序员:

致"反对此项目的墙内程序员"

本项目上线第二天,就收获 363 个 star 兼 88 个 fork,甚至还挤进 GitHub 的"当日 Trending"——俺很荣幸,也很高兴有这么多人给俺捧场。

但是在本项目的 issue 列表中也看到好几个反对此项目的程序员(应该都来自墙内),他们担心这个项目导致 GitHub 被 GFW 封杀。

这几年来,类似的言论俺已经看了不少。就好比强盗拿刀杀人,围观者不但没有谴责强盗,反而去谴责卖刀的店家——这就是传说中的"斯德哥尔摩综合症"。

有兴趣的同学,可以看俺之前的博文——《天朝民众的心理分析:斯德哥尔摩综合症》

Translation:

In reply to: "Programmers behind the GFW who are against this project"

The second day after the project went online, it got 363 stars and 88 forks, and even squeezed into GitHub’s "Trending repositories of the Day". I am honored and I am so happy that so many people gave me their support.

However, in the issue list of this project, I also saw several programmers who opposed this project (likely all from within the GFW), and they worried that this project would cause GitHub to be blocked by GFW.

Over the past few years, I have read a lot of similar comments. A good comparison would be if a robber were killing someone with a knife, and the onlookers not only did not condemn the robber, but instead condemned the shop that sold the knife. This is the legendary "Stockholm syndrome".

Interested people can read my previous blog post: "Psychological Analysis of the People of the Heavenly Dynasty: Stockholm Syndrome".

The more places we can denounce dictators, the better people are off, the minor annoyance to sensitive people is worth it. Ciro wrote a poem:

Don’t discuss politics on Stack Overflow.
Don’t discuss politics on GitHub.
Don’t discuss politics on YouTube.
Don’t discuss politics on Facebook.
Don’t discuss politics on Twitter.
Don’t discuss politics.
Don’t discuss.
Don’t.
.

Infinite duplicate pool:

  • https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues?q=label%3Ameant-to-be-used+

  • caffeine-overload/bandinchina#89

4.2.1. Is Ciro Santilli making programming contributions with the main intent of promoting his political agenda?

No, that is just a side effect.

For example, if that were the case, he would definitely target more widely used technologies, in particular Web and JavaScript, instead of obscure things like C and assembly in which I have spent tons of my time.

Also, any attempt to influence a billin people is unlikely to have any effect. Much more likely to have any effect, would be for Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) to become rich and powerful first, and the best way to do that is to invest in whatever he thinks is most useful.

Actually, it can even be argued that Ciro’s somewhat irrational, since he would be much more likely to become rich and powerful by bowing down to the CCP and trying to get their money instead.

On the other hand, becoming rich and powerful is also highly unlikely, so maybe it’s justa matter of taking a low-risk low-reward path?

Ciro has have very little free time, and he will never do something for political reasons, only things that interest me technically.

Finally, do you really think he’d be able to do such awesome projects if he had primarily political considerations in mind? XD

4.2.1.1. Is Ciro Santilli making trivial edits on questions just to spam your name further?

No.

I just think that the website is great, and want to push it to perfection, in particular with better Google keyword hits, and uniform grammatically correct titles.

If you think that any of my edits were harmful, please ping me and open a meta thread to discuss specific edits, and I will comply with consensus.

4.2.2. Communist bread (中共面包)

Earliest sources found so far are from Reddit:

  • https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/o2qyu5/china_has_a_brand_of_bread_named_stop_interfering/

  • https://www.reddit.com/r/chonglangTV/comments/o2l16c/香啊造啊/

English text:

Stop interfering in China’s internal affairs Bread

Chinese text:

中国人不吃这一套
美国没有资格
居高临下同中国说话
巧克力酱面包
保质期10天

Translation:

The Chinese people don’t eat this trick
The United States is not qualified to
Take the high ground and look down on China
Chocolate sauce bread
Best before: 10 days

https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/o2qyu5/china_has_a_brand_of_bread_named_stop_interfering/h2838jz mentions that this was something that came from the 2021 US-China Alaska summit

Here is a different picture of the same product from April 14th: https://twitter.com/YukayuyuWasGod/status/1382218316895244295 That one might allow better brand identification: 万X福 That one also posted at: https://www.reddit.com/r/China_irl/comments/o2zbsw/偶然看到这张图不知道是不是真的/ Watermarked Weibo @第三豹弹

Stop interfering in China s internal affairs bread
Figure 3. Chinese dual-use bread. More info at: Communist bread (中共面包).
Stop interfering in China s internal affairs bread
Figure 4. Communist bread vs Communist condom. Someone made a brilliant communist condom Photoshop reply to the Communist bread (中共面包). Pointed out at: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#523 and a previous source at: https://weibo.com/5586291457/K9Vg7ceM7?type=comment#_rnd162900969912. Part of the joke is that the Chinese message reads "中国人不吃这一套" (The Chinese people won’t fall for this trick, literally "don’t eat this trick"), and "套" is the last character for condom in Chinese (避孕套), so the sentence is recast as "The Chinese people won’t eat this condom.". "套" more generally means a type of "slip-on cover or envelope". Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) reposted at: https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/p4p3u3/stop_interfering_in_chinas_internal_affairs/ on r/China Reddit sub. As mentioned at https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/p4p3u3/stop_interfering_in_chinas_internal_affairs/h90foja the association of the Chinese sentence with condoms had been done independently before this Photoshop emerged, see e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdEQ7JavgLw by GFWfrog (墙国蛙蛤蛤). GFWfrog also twitted this image of course: https://twitter.com/gfwfrog/status/1387121102967672835.

4.3. Why would China be better without its Dictatorship? (为什么没有独裁的中国会更好?)

Because it would make China, and the world:

  • richer

  • less likely to get into WW3

  • safer for its own citizens

4.3.1. Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (为什么民主和言论自由能够让中国变得更加富有?)

Democracy is even one of the [core-socialist-values]!

There is infinite debate about this out there, some examples:

  • https://www.becker-posner-blog.com/2011/05/can-poor-countries-afford-democracy-becker.html (archive)

  • https://www.quora.com/Is-democracy-or-authoritarianism-better-for-developing-countries

For:

  • dictatorships are more likely to start Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (为什么民主和言论自由会让中国不太可能发动战争?) or other crazy policies like the Great Leap Forward, which completely destroy the economy in one go

  • society becomes richer when people know that they can do their startups, get rich, and stay in the country without fear of being persecuted unfairly and losing everything instead of migrating to Canada, see also: [rule-of-law], [jack-mas-disappearance-2021]

  • it is much harder to fix problems if you can’t talk about the. Any criticism of the government, even if constructive, is taken as menace to power, and more likely to be shut down, which makes the government and just becomes less efficient since there is less feedback.

    This greatly increase the probability of dealing poorly with such problems, see e.g. all the global problems listed at: Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (外国人不应该干预中国政治).

  • governments are monopolies, and the more powerful they are, the worst it is for competition an efficiency in general. E.g.: the startup with better government ties wins, instead of the most efficient one.

  • people in dictatorships tend to hide their true identities online and in life in general. It is best not to stand out, because if you make any mistake, you are really fucked. As a result, for example, if you do something awesome like a creating an open source project, but do it anonymously, you won’t get as much fame. And therefore everyone does less of such awesome things on average.

Against:

  • presidents only care about the 4-8 year horizon, while dictators can make longer term decisions to maintain power forever, their power being limited only by "the people are happy enough to not start a revolution"

  • dictatorships can make changes faster without the same amount of discussion that happens in democracies, where power is more spread out.

    Killing a million people will make us richer? No problem, let’s do it.

    That is great when they make good decisions, but it sucks when they make bad ones more likely.

Maybe China was poor because of Mao’s crazy communist regime. Similar regimes also made [russia] poor. And yes, before that exploitation by the West may have been a factor.

Definitely, the current regime is better than Mao’s, but just imagine how rich China could be if it had more freedom and justice.

Imperial China lost the race for the Industrial Revolution. Will another dictatorship be able to stay on top of the next technological revolution?

XKCD 937 tornado guard
Figure 5. XKCD 937 "TornadoGuard" comes to mind in relationship to the variable performance of dictatorships. Source.
4.3.1.1. Dictatorships have greater development variability (专政具有更大的发展可变性)

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) really likes Posners' way of putting it:

While average rate of growth do not appear to differ much between democracies and authoritarian regimes, the variability in performance does differ more among authoritarian governments. China has had remarkable growth since the 1980s, but the prolonged devastation and hardship produced by China’s "[great-leap-forward]" (when millions of farmers starved to death) and its Cultural Revolution would unlikely have occurred in a democratic country like say India. Nor is it likely that say Cuba and many African nations would have suffered so long with such terrible economic policies if they had reasonably democratic institutions.

4.3.1.2. Tea egg incident (茶葉蛋事件, 2011)
  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/茶葉蛋事件

A Taiwanese celebrity said many people in China can’t even buy tea eggs, which are extremely cheap and easy to make at home: you just need to cook some eggs in any cheap tea! Chinese internet [wumao]s made fun of that, and likely rightly so.

4.3.2. Censorship makes countries poorer (审查使国家更穷)

Dictatorships need [censorship] to survive, and they must control all information to make themselves always look good: [dictator-needs-gfw].

As a result, knowledge of problems flows more slowly, and therefore they also take longer to solve.

Maybe this hurts the argument, but Hillary agrees: :-)

But countries that restrict free access to information or violate the basic rights of internet users risk walling themselves off from the progress of the next century

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccGzOJHE1rw&t=2110 "Secretary Clinton Speaks on Internet Freedom", U.S. Department of State, 2010-01-22

Also mentioned at: Google versus China - VPRO documentary - 2011

This is also the basis of a Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击).

This suggestion is even more explicit in the fictional World War Z 2006 novel by Max Brooks about a virus outbreak in China. It was later adapted into the World War Z (2013) movie by Paramount:

  • https://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/jun/04/brad-pitt-china-world-war-z: Paramount cowards tried to kowtow and remove references to China from the movie, but it failed

  • https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/china-barred-my-dystopian-novel-about-how-its-system-enables-epidemics/2020/02/27/cc0446f0-58e5-11ea-9000-f3cffee23036_story.html: no Chinese publisher dared publish the book unless China references were removed, which the author declined, and so the book was not published in China

Or if you prefer:

The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic.

Amartya Sen is another famous proponent of similar arguments in the area of hungers: https://www.globalpolicy.org/component/content/article/211/44284.html (archive)

In democratic countries, even very poor ones, the survival of the ruling government would be threatened by famine, since elections are not easy to win after famines; nor is it easy to withstand criticism of opposition parties and newspapers. That is why famine does not occur in democratic countries. Unfortunately, there are a great many countries in the world which do not yet have democratic systems.

although like any other political argument, some disagree.

Virus outbreaks and other natural disasters also illustrate this well: Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查).

Bibliography:

  • https://www.uow.edu.au/the-stand/2019/chernobyl-a-lesson-in-truth.php Chernobyl: a lesson in truth Secrets were kept, mistakes were made, and people were exposed

4.3.2.1. Chernobyl 2019 miniseries (切尔诺贝利_(迷你剧))
  • link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_(miniseries)

  • link:https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/切尔诺贝利_(迷你剧)

Suggests that part of the reason why Chernobyl happened is because of the Soviet Union’s obsession to save face, and illustrates well how Censorship makes countries poorer (审查使国家更穷).

The URSS only admitted Chernobyl three days after when Swedish nuclear plant radiation detector alarms started going off.

Notably, in order to keep it secret, they for example did not cancel the International Workers' Day parade in Kharkov, Ukraine which happened five days after the disaster. Related: [different-levels-of-truth].

Related:

  • [different-levels-of-truth]

  • [law-of-gravity-1984]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocBVLMHK6c8 Chernobyl supercut scene where the reactor explodes, and a chief engineer "Comrade Dyatlov" accepts a hastily made radiation measurement of 3.6 Roentgen as "Not great, not terrible" and forwards it to his superiors who take actions based on that, even though the radiation measurement apparatus only goes up to 3.6 Roentgen! Needless to say, the actual radiation was much, much higher: when a proper measurement was made much later on, the value was 15000 Roentgen!
3 6 Roentgen
Figure 6. Photo of a CDV-717 radioactivity meter that maxes out at 3.6 Roentgen (倫琴) like the one that would have been used in Chernobyl. Source.
4.3.2.2. Censorship makes no one trust your country (审查使得沒有人相信你的国家)

Who would trust a government that does not trust its own journalists and citizens?

Even democracies cannot be trusted, but dictatorships? No one ever believes what they say, even when it’s true.

The boy just called wolf far too many times.

And as a result, this makes it very difficult to have allies.

Sure, other dictatorships will seem to become allies with your dictatorship and collaborate.

But deep down, you know that they are all just waiting patiently to put a knife in one other’s backs.

Dictators will always live in fear.

4.3.2.3. Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus_disease_2019

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019冠状病毒病

The Chinese Government censored the initial outbreak in January and did not inform Wuhan on January 8, which likely made the situation much worse than what it could have been.

On the other hand, one may argue that the "city closure" measures were stronger/faster than in democracies, and maybe that is true.

And Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) does believe that the virus would have escaped even if there had been no censorship. Although maybe thousands of lives would have been saved due to smaller saturation of hospitals had a proper early warning been given.

So Ciro’s main criticism is that of the censorship of citizen reports the event: People arrested for reporting on the 2019 Corona Virus (因报道 2019 年冠状病毒而被捕的人). Why do you need to censor things when you are doing so well?

And it should also be said that some Western politicians have used "blame China" as an excuse to divert attention from their own failures.

Some believe that the Chinese government grossly under-reported death counts. Initial official figures were about only 3300 deaths, in the insanely densely populated Wuhan area, while Italy had reached 10000 deaths:

  • 2022-04 https://www.voanews.com/a/china-censors-national-anthem-lyrics-used-as-lockdown-protest-/6539716.html China Censors [national-anthem] Lyrics Used as Lockdown Protest on [voa]

  • 2020-04-19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr280LWjJT0&t=2198 Trump says on a White House briefing he does not believe China’s case count

  • 2020-04-01 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-01/china-concealed-extent-of-virus-outbreak-u-s-intelligence-says CIA speaks

  • 2020-03-29 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8165717/Locals-Wuhan-believe-42-000-people-died-coronavirus.html Reports of funerary urns sold

Maybe China is saying the truth this time. Maybe the rapid Dictatorship response worked. But maybe the most important lesson to take out of this is that no one trusts in a Dictatorship after an infinitely long history of lies and lack of freedom of the press.

[li-hongzhi] of course doubts those numbers :-) [falun-gongs-view-of-epidemics].

Good timelines so without a fucking paywall:

  • https://www.axios.com/timeline-the-early-days-of-chinas-coronavirus-outbreak-and-cover-up-ee65211a-afb6-4641-97b8-353718a5faab.html "Timeline: The early days of China’s coronavirus outbreak and cover-up"

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2019–20_coronavirus_pandemic_in_November_2019_–_January_2020

Timeline:

  • 2019-12-27 several genomics companies had sequenced the coronavirus and noticed the similarity to Sars. According to GeneBank, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MT019529 the sample was collected on and 23-Dec-2019 and published on 04-FEB-2020

  • 2020-01-01 [cctv] announces that posting about it online is a crime: https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/ko18aa/on_this_day_one_year_ago_cctv_first_reported_on/

  • 2020-01-03 findings were sent to the Centre for Disease Control (CDC, 中国疾病预防控制中心) in Beijing, but then the Chinese National Health Commission (中华人民共和国国家卫生健康委员会), China’s top medical authority, issued orders to not talk about it and destroy samples

  • 2020-01-08 CDC team went to Wuhan to see the situation, was not informed that contagiousness of the disease had been confirmed

  • 2020-01-20 the findings were made public, in an interview with Zhong Nanshan. He later said in an interview that the local government should be blamed:

  • 2020-01-23 Wuhan begins lockdown

  • 2020-01-24 to 30 Chinese New Year

News coverage:

  • 2021-03-04 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/china-makes-anal-swab-covid-tests-compulsory-for-foreign-arrivals-mvthjq8c7 "China makes anal swab Covid tests compulsory for foreign arrivals". This is not a criticism to China as the test might be accurate. But it is one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard.

  • 2020-12-20 https://www.propublica.org/article/leaked-documents-show-how-chinas-army-of-paid-internet-trolls-helped-censor-the-coronavirus "Leaked Documents Show How China’s Army of Paid Internet Trolls Helped Censor the Coronavirus" talks about [wumao] working during COVID

  • 2020-05-12: https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-cia-believes-china-tried-stop-who-alarm-pandemic-1503565 CIA people said China stopped the WHO from sounding the alarm from January 24 to January 30, while at the same time stockpiling protection materials

  • [caixin] article about how early Coronavirus signs were censored:

    • https://china.caixin.com/2020-03-10/101526309.html (archive) "李文亮所在医院为何医护人员伤亡惨重?" (Why did Li Wenliang’s [李文亮] hospital suffer heavy casualties?)

    • https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-02-29/in-depth-how-early-signs-of-a-sars-like-virus-were-spotted-spread-and-throttled-101521745.html (paywall) "In Depth: How Early Signs of a SARS-Like Virus Were Spotted, Spread, and Throttled"

    • https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/chinese-scientists-destroyed-proof-of-virus-in-december-rz055qjnj "Chinese scientists destroyed proof of virus in December". Paywall skip: https://archive.md/xOKiu Terrible copy paste of some Caixin article with no sources/precise names.

  • https://www.businessinsider.com/china-information-crackdown-on-wuhan-coronavirus-2020-1 "China spent the crucial first days of the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak arresting people who posted about it online and threatening journalists" (archive)

  • https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g5xykx/you-can-now-go-to-jail-in-china-for-criticizing-beijings-coronavirus-response "You Can Now Go to Jail in China for Criticizing Beijing’s Coronavirus Response"

  • https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qjdn4d/doctors-in-wuhan-are-still-dying-and-beijing-is-still-trying-to-silence-them Ai Fen’s (艾芬) report of how the situation was mishandling was censored

  • 2020-04-13 https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/12/asia/china-coronavirus-research-restrictions-intl-hnk/index.html "Beijing tightens grip over coronavirus research, amid US-China row on virus origin". The Government can now veto papers from being published on the subject of the origin of COVID-19.

In other countries:

  • [india-covid-handling-twitter-suppression-2021]

Covid gag mask
Figure 7. Assemblage of a respirator mask with a BDSM gag ball (口塞) attached to it, suggesting that citizen reports of COVID-19 in China have been censored. Source.
Covid Xi
Figure 8. Corona Xi mural of [xi-jinping] morphed into a Coronavirus by Lushux. Fuller composition view: https://twitter.com/lushsux/status/1243830638966235136. Reddit called it Winnie the Flu in a reference to [winnie-the-pooh]. Source.
CCP Olympic medal 2020 vs COVID death counts
Figure 9. Comparison of how some Chinese sources counted COVID deaths excluding Taiwan (Republic of China, 台湾, 中華民國) and [hong-kong], while at the same time including their gold medals in their gold medal count to overcome the United States' medal count. TODO original untranslated source. Source.
4.3.2.3.1. April 2022 Shanghai lockdown

People were getting really fed up by that one:

  • https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2022/apr/25/beijing-residents-stock-up-on-food-amid-covid-lockdown-fears-video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpJPPJwi2Vo What It’s Like Inside Shanghai’s Lockdown by VICE News (2022)
4.3.2.3.2. Li Wenliang (李文亮)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li_Wenliang

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/李文亮

He reported the virus, but was told by authorities to stay quiet, and later died from the virus, becoming somewhat of a martyr:

  • https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51409801

  • https://chinadigitaltimes.net/chinese/2020/02/【网络民议】你能做到吗?-你听明白了吗?/ by [china-digital-times]

The following excerpt from his forced confession trended:

你能做到吗?
你听明白了吗?

Translation:

Can you manage?
Do you understand?

Li Wenliang covid
Figure 10. Selfie of Li Wenliang (李文亮) on his hospital bed before he died. Source.
Li Wenliang COVID barbed wire mark by Kuang Biao
Figure 11. Caricature of Li Wenliang (李文亮) wearing a mask made of barbed wire by artist [kuang-biao]. The image circulated on Weibo for some time. Source.
4.3.2.3.3. nCovMemory

Popular GitHub repo documenting personal experiences and media reports:

  • https://github.com/2019ncovmemory/nCovMemory "新冠肺炎记忆:报道、非虚构与个人叙述" 2020 New coronavirus pneumonia memories: reports, non-fictional and personal accounts.

    Some of the creators of the repostory were arrested in 2020: https://qz.com/1846277/china-arrests-users-behind-github-coronavirus-memories-page/ and the repo must have been taken down at that time.

     fork with the most stars we can find: https://github.com/dta0502/nCovMemory[], in case that goes down: https://github.com/cirosantilli/nCovMemory
    * https://github.com/memoryhonest/nCovMemory-en translation project

Other interesting GitHub repositories: GitHub repositories with censored information (政治敏感的GitHub库).

Related:

  • https://github.com/lestweforget/wuhan2019

  • https://github.com/lestweforget/COVID-19-Timeline

4.3.2.3.4. People arrested for reporting on the 2019 Corona Virus (因报道 2019 年冠状病毒而被捕的人)

Best montage: Eight people were punished.

  • Chen Qiushi (陈秋实)

    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/chenqiushi404

    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv361SF6FKznoGPKEFG9Yhw

    • https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/09/asia/wuhan-citizen-journalist-intl-hnk/index.html "Chen Qiushi spoke out about the Wuhan virus. Now his family and friends fear he’s been silenced"

    • 2020-04-18 https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/epgek4/he-traveled-to-wuhan-to-report-on-coronavirus-and-hasnt-been-heard-from-since "He Traveled to Wuhan to Report on Coronavirus – and Hasn’t Been Heard From Since"

    • https://youtube.com/watch?v=Iwpr55PZEJ8 "Lawyer Chen Qiushi documenting coronavirus epicentre disappears" by [scmp]

    • 2021-09 they actually let him back online, e.g. https://mobile.twitter.com/chenqiushi404/status/1516189492595814401 anti [russo-ukrainian-war]

  • Li Zehua (李澤華)

    • YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJHUpBCNKrZwBhxfcIrP8Aw

    • Twitter https://twitter.com/kcrissli

    • 2020-02-28 https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/qjdejp/a-chinese-citizen-journalist-covering-coronavirus-just-live-streamed-his-own-arrest

  • 2020-04-25: Chen Mei, Cai Wei and his girlfriend, who contributed to Terminus2049 (端点星计划, 2049bbs)

  • 2020-04-14: Zhang Zhan (张展)

    • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsNKkvZGMURFmYkfhYa2HOQ

    • https://www.scmp.com/video/coronavirus/3084983/coronavirus-chinese-citizen-journalist-detained-after-live-streaming

      • 2020-11-16 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/16/citizen-journalist-facing-jail-in-china-for-wuhan-covid-reporting-zhang-zhan, finally accused of [picking-quarrels]

      • 2020-12-28 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/28/wuhan-citizen-journalist-jailed-for-four-years-in-chinas-christmas-crackdown "Wuhan Covid citizen journalist jailed for four years in China crackdown"

  • [xu-zhangrun]

TODO maybe not arrested but relevant:

  • https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/p2t243/police_travel_to_mans_house_and_force_him_to/ unconfirmed video: Police travel to man’s house and force him to delete his WeChat post about Covid-19 spreading in his area because the government won’t admit to any cases.

  • Fang Fang (方方) published in 2020 Wuhan Diary (方方日記, 方方日记)

    Possible free Chinese version: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGF5YWJvb2suY29tfHd3d3xneDo3ZGUzZWZjZDgyZDkxNjc0 (archive)

4.3.2.3.5. Fang Bin (方斌)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fang_Bin

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/方斌

  • Twitter: https://twitter.com/GuqZJRTOvbqbGub

  • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRItarzSwqakT-EZkSvuy3A

He was the second Chinese citizen journalist to vanish while reporting from coronavirus epicentre" by [scmp]

Hist last YouTube video simply shows the following caligraphed message with him reading it twice:

全民反抗
还政于民
方斌书

which translates as:

All the people, revolt.
Return the country (politics) to its people.
Written (calligraphed) by Fang Bin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7VIG2qp0j4 Fang Bin’s last YouTube video from 2020-02-09.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUvBNpkxrJo "Fang Bin is second Chinese citizen journalist to vanish while reporting from coronavirus epicentre" by [scmp]
Fang Bin
Figure 12. Montage with images from two of Fang Bin’s last YouTube videos: on the left from the antepenultimate video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXV4Ih2xrk, and on the right from the last "All the people, revolt" one.

4.3.3. Censorship makes it harder to solve social problems (审查制度使解决社会问题变得更加困难)

  • [labour-rights]

  • [metoo]

  • [gay-rights]

4.3.3.1. Low-end population (低端人口, 2017)
  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-hans/北京低端人口

  • https://qz.com/1138395/low-end-population-what-you-need-to-know-about-chinas-crackdown-on-migrant-workers/

4.3.4. Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (为什么民主和言论自由会让中国不太可能发动战争?)

This has been discussed to death:

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_peace_theory

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_Peace:_A_Philosophical_Sketch

Some arguments include:

  • the people who will actually fight and die on the front can’t vote against it

  • dictators have huge power, so if they put it in their heads that they want to start a war, it is much harder for sensible people to stop them

  • dictators need to keep the people in fear all the time to keep their power, and a war is a great way to achieve that

Of course China won’t say that they are starting a war when they do.

They will of course start with territories which they claim as theirs, to add to other recent additions which were not theirs until the recent past, even though their inhabitants desperately want to leave China:

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_China–India_skirmishes | https://www.asiasentinel.com/p/beijing-said-to-fund-separatist-india "Beijing Said to Fund Separatist India Movement"

Which reminds us of…​ Comparisons between the CCP and Nazi Germany (纳粹德国和中共长得很想):

  • 1939 Gleiwitz incident, a false flag attack

  • 1938 Annexation of Sudetenland from Czechoslovakia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_World_War_II explains:

    A decisive proximate event was the 1938 Munich Conference, which formally approved Germany’s annexation of the Sudetenland from Czechoslovakia. Hitler promised it was his last territorial claim, but in early 1939 he became even more aggressive, and European governments finally realized that appeasement was not guaranteeing peace."

  • 1935-1938 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Causes_of_World_War_II&oldid=968409781#Expansionism_and_militarism comments:

    In Italy, Benito Mussolini sought to create a New Roman Empire, based around the Mediterranean. It invaded Ethiopia as early as 1935, Albania in early 1938, and later Greece. That provoked angry words and an oil embargo from the League of Nations, which failed.

  • 1931 1931 Japanese invasion of Manchuria, with one false flag event preceding it: Mikden Incident.

When China calls the USA Imperialist (帝国主义), there is of course some truth to it, but it is also very ironic, because as Lindybeige mentions, China is obviously the largest empire on Earth! Despite its uniformization efforts, China is highly diverse since it is obviously made up of a large stitched up carpet of nations that were conquered by a single empire. E.g. Xinjiang (新疆) translates literally as "The New Frontier"! Not to mention obviously the unification of the [warring-states-period].

Bibliography:

  • https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/06/14/xi-jinpings-approval-non-war-military-use-raises-fears-taiwan/ Xi Jinping signs directive allowing for 'non-war' uses of the military - a tactic similar to that used by Russia before it invaded Ukraine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRmHOSnehTk Ending of the Sportpalast speech, AKA total war (总体战) speech by Goebbels, given in 1943, when Germany started to lose the war. This was later target of opposing allied propaganda. Total war, that’s what dictatorship bring you. Fucking YouTube likely deleted a better uncommented version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRmHOSnehTk it as of 2022, political correctness idiots.
4.3.4.1. The United States has recently started several wars and killed millions! (美国最近发动了几场战争,造成数百万人死亡!)

Not even democracies can fully protect people from other countries, because they don’t vote. Yes, congratulations, Western democracies are not perfect (西方的民主有很多缺点).

But if the USA were a dictatorship like China it would kill way more, because it would censor every report against the war internally to its own people, and the wars would just go on like in [nineteen-eighty-four-war-is-peace].

How many times do we have to bring Hitler up? 70-85 million deaths in one go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

The only reason China has not started wars is because it is a poor country, and it would lose them. If it were rich, it would have started more wars and killed 100 times more people.

Finally, some wars are good.

If a country is oppressed by a dictatorship, and most of its people want to be free, it might be right to help them be free.

If a country sponsors terrorism, it might be a good idea to take out their Government.

This has to be analyzed on a case-by-case basis, and maybe a verdict will never be reached. But at least in a democracy the people can decide based on varied information. In a dictatorship, whatever the dictator decides happens.

Also, most of those small wars that he USA started end up being proxy wars between the USA and [russia]/China, with the USA pushing for democracy, and Russia/China pushing for more dictatorships.

4.3.5. The Chinese masses are still uneducated, and not fit for free speech and democracy 中国大众愚昧,不能好好选领导

When will they be ready? Who decides? What if they think that they are ready now?

In George Bernard Shaw’s "Maxims for Revolutionists" words:

Democracy substitutes election by the incompetent many for appointment by the corrupt few.

Many democracy supporters jokingly recognize democracy’s shortcomings.

A fake Churchill quote:

The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

Art Spander:

The great thing about democracy is that it gives every voter a chance to do something stupid.

Laurence J Peter:

Democracy is a process by which the people are free to choose the man who will get the blame.

Immoral and uneducated
Figure 13. Preaching to the mob meme template: "中国人道德低下素质差。所以不适合民主。" Translation: The Chinese people are immoral and uneducated (people are angry). That’s why they’re not suitable for democracy (people are happy). This makes fun of the fact even if you say bad things about the Chinese, some people will complain that you are racist. But the same people will also say the same bad things about the Chinese people as a way to explain why it is better if they don’t vote, and no one minds that. Source.
Immoral and uneducated en
Figure 14. Translation of the above.
4.3.5.1. The Chinese masses are not interested in politics and therefore not ready to vote (中国群众对政治不感兴趣,因此不准备投票)

But how would they be interested in politics or be able to discuss it, if it is impossible to have a different view without going to jail? See also: Chilling effect (寒蝉效应).

What about the 1 million people in Tiananmen and the 70 million [falun-gong] followers? Did they not care?

Chinese political spectrum meme in English: https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b8d4cd1a58c6c7eee88bad82b94f4e5c

4.3.5.1.1. Lurker (吃瓜群众)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lurker

  • https://baike.baidu.com/item/吃瓜群众/19902553

This Internet slang refers to The Chinese masses are not interested in politics and therefore not ready to vote (中国群众对政治不感兴趣,因此不准备投票) quite well: "吃瓜群众", the "Melon eater masses.",

Most people dare not comment, they just watch, knowing that any comment, in either direction, is a risk they take, with little likely benefit.

4.3.6. As long as China is developing economically, it is fine to violate the human rights of a few million people (只要经济好,我不在乎人权)

This argument can be made, but it is a risky way to live: Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities (大多数中国人不关心少数民族).

Herman Goring actually justified the atrocities of Nazism in the exact same way during his appearance on the Nuremberg trials.

Do the ends always justify the means?

What is the point of having all that wealth, when you risk being put into jail for unfair reasons?

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) argues that China would be even richer if it weren’t for the CCP: Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (为什么民主和言论自由能够让中国变得更加富有?), and that the CCP only violates people’s human rights as a tool to stay in power: Is the Chinese government evil? (中国共产党是邪恶的吗?).

Pig politics Chinese
Figure 15. [rebel-pepper] cartoon about a pig who does not care about politics because it cannot be eaten. 民主又不能当饭吃 Source.
Rebel pepper pig can%27t eat democracy cartoon translated to English by Ciro Santilli
Figure 16. Translation by Ciro Santilli of the Rebel Pepper cartoon about the pig who does not care about politics because it cannot be eaten.
Shut up and take my freedom
Figure 17. Shut up and take my freedom meme by Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的).
Shut up and take my freedom zh
Figure 18. Shut up and take my freedom meme by Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) translated to Chinese: "什么都别说了,拿走我的自由".

4.3.7. Democracies have less corruption than dictatorships (民主国家的腐败比独裁国家少)

One of the key points of Xi Jinping’s governments has been to quench corruption. And use that as an excuse to get rid of rivals while at it.

However, there is one much better solution to that: democracy and freedom of speech.

The reason is obvious: with censorship, corrupt politicians can censor anything bad that they did, and so it becomes much harder to destroy corruption.

In George Bernard Shaw’s "Maxims for Revolutionists" words:

Democracy substitutes election by the incompetent many for appointment by the corrupt few.

Ciro does however believe the China spy stories (中国间谍故事) claims made at https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/21/china-stolen-us-data-exposed-cia-operatives-spy-networks/ that the anti-corruption is also a legitimate national security issue for China, in addition to being a tool to take down political rivals:

Over the course of their investigation into the CIA’s China-based agent network, Chinese officials learned that the agency was secretly paying the "promotion fees" - in other words, the bribes - regularly required to rise up within the Chinese bureaucracy, according to four current and former officials. It was how the CIA got "disaffected people up in the ranks. But this was not done once, and wasn’t done just in the [Chinese military]," recalled a current Capitol Hill staffer. "Paying their bribes was an example of long-term thinking that was extraordinary for us," said a former senior counterintelligence official. "Recruiting foreign military officers is nearly impossible. It was a way to exploit the corruption to our advantage." At the time, "promotion fees" sometimes ran into the millions of dollars, according to a former senior CIA official: "It was quite amazing the level of corruption that was going on." The compensation sometimes included paying tuition and board for children studying at expensive foreign universities, according to another CIA officer.

https://youtu.be/8F0kSDV9U_E?t=408 Shocking Russian Military Corruption Exposed by Task & Purpose (2022) poses an interesting thesis: the toplevel of corrupt governments know about the corruption of officials and accept it. And this is in part to have leverage over them, to be able to bring them down whenever they feel like it. This incentivizes loyalty.

Well known corruption cases:

  • 2020 Ren Zhiqiang

    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren_Zhiqiang

    • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/任志强

    • https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/22/asia/china-ren-zhiqiang-xi-jinping-intl-hnk/index.html "Chinese tycoon who criticized Xi Jinping's handling of coronavirus jailed for 18 years"

  • 2012 Ling Jihua (令计划): son died in Ferrari crash with two women on the car, which put the spotlight on him

  • 2012 [bo-xilai]: trigerred by the murder of Neil Heywood, of which Bo’s wife was accused

Related events:

  • [panama-papers]

  • [putin-s-palace]

4.3.7.1. Operation Fox Hunt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fox_Hunt

Trying to prevent corruption is fine, but violating the laws of other countries in doing so, or the [rule-of-law] of their family is not.

Publicized by China itself: [china-daily] http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2015-11/05/content_22375920.htm

  • 2020-10-28 "Eight Individuals Charged With Conspiring to Act as Illegal Agents of the People’s Republic of China" https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/eight-individuals-charged-conspiring-act-illegal-agents-people-s-republic-china

4.3.7.1.1. The detention of Liu Changming’s (刘昌明) family (2018)

China imposed an exit ban on the ex-official’s family, who are also USA citizens:

  • officer Liu Changming (刘昌明)

  • wife Sandra Han

  • children Victor Liu (born July 1999 in the USA) and Cynthia Liu (27 in 2019, born in China, but also American citizen)

China says that the children and wife do have valid Chinese documents, so maybe those idiots did not give up their Chinese citizenship and went to China. Why, why, why would you do that? Don’t they know anything about China?

Cynthia claimed her father has left home a long time ago and that they are not in contact with their father.

Liu is a so called naked official (裸官), who let his family go live outside of China to prevent such problems with the CCP.

The wiki page also explains that in 2014 rules were added to prevent promotion of officials whose spouses live abroad.

This reminds Ciro of a Mafia movie, maybe Godfather II, where the bad guy says he "likes doing business with a man that has a family, because he has more collateral".

Coverage:

  • 2018-11 https://www.businessinsider.com/liu-changming-china-holds-officials-family-hostage-to-force-return-2018-11

2019-05-09 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2hBtXdaYsQ Cynthia Liu, daughter of Liu Changming (刘昌明) pleas freedom on YouTube. Commented upload by CBS, TODO can’t find original video on YouTube, maybe they sent straight to CBS?

4.4. Will the keyword attacks really help to destroy the firewall? (关键字攻击真的有助于破坏防火墙吗?)

It is both unlikely, and hard to be sure.

Just like it is unlikely that the activity of on individual can have a big influence in any group of 1 billion people.

Every action is statistical: I just push the balance a little bit towards freedom.

This FAQ and any talk is useless. You and I are wasting our time here.

The possibility of blocking Stack Overflow and GitHub is 1000x more useful than any talk, but it is still useless.

However, potentially blocking those websites takes 0 of my time, I just leave the content there, so it is worth my time.

To have an idea, in 2015 there are about:

  • 20M developers in the world

  • 2M in China : https://www.quora.com/Approximately-how-many-programmers-are-there-in-the-world https://www.techrepublic.com/blog/european-technology/there-are-185-million-software-developers-in-the-world-but-which-country-has-the-most/

  • 5M Stack Overflow users https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/227868/select-count-from-users

  • TODO I wonder what percentage of GDP those programmers control. I’ll bet any programmer on Stack Overflow is at least 20x more powerful than the average Chinese.

And if we never start somewhere, nothing will ever happen.

Furthermore, even if the GFW falls, it is not clear that this will imply the end of the dictatorship: [dictator-needs-gfw].

Even if it is not, it does not matter, since Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) spends so little time doing it: Doesn’t Ciro Santilli have anything better to do than pissing off China? (除了反对中共以外,三西猴有没有别的更好的事儿要作吗?) and has fun in doing it.

Nobody can hear you
Figure 19. House of Cards S01E02 "Nobody can hear you. Nobody cares about you. Nothing will come of this." GIF. Source.

4.4.1. Embargoes make dictatorships stronger (禁运使独裁更强大)

The keyword attack is basically an embargo.

There is already a lot of literature about this, especially in the cases of Cuba and North Korea. It is basically a libertarian vs conservative/Cato vs Heritage thing in the US:

  • https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/no-embargo-harms-cubans-gives-castro-excuse-policy-failures-regime

  • https://www.heritage.org/trade/report/why-the-cuban-trade-embargo-should-be-maintained

  • https://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_big_idea/2006/08/thanks_for_the_sanctions.html

The key dilemma is:

  • if we keep contact with the Dictatorship, maybe its people will see that democracy is better and start a liberating revolution

  • if we keep giving technology to the Dictatorship and it does not become a democracy, we are making a Dictatorship more technologically advanced, and therefore dangerous

Some interesting aspects of the keyword attack embargo:

  • it is immediately self-enforcing: we don’t need politicians to decide and enforce the complex "if you do this, we punish you like that" question.

    By political and technological information is together, and this immediately puts the dictatorship in a bad spot, without us having to decide anything.

  • by affecting programmers in particular through Stack Overflow and GitHub, we make them more likely to develop better Firewall climbing tools themselves

One point in favor of the embargo is that China has opened up since the '80s '90s, but did freedom improve at all? Under [xi-jinping], it may be argued that it did not, and maybe that we should just stop feeding them technology and accept that they won’t become free.

Trump’s 2019 China trade war, and in particular the [huawei] ban, is an event that has brought this question to the spotlight once again.

4.4.1.1. Keyword attacks could be used by certain CCP political groups to justify blocking off the entire external Internet, and make the dictatorship even more pervasive

It is a risk, but it would make China drastically less powerful, so at least they wouldn’t be able to start or sustain WW3. So I don’t think it will go that way.

4.4.2. Stack Overflow and GitHub could be blocked at no cost by the Chinese government (中国政府可以免费封锁 Stack Overflow 和 GitHub)

Hitting the block button has, of course, no cost.

The cost of blocking Stack Overflow lies of course in the loss of information, and slower technological development, see also: Why attack websites with censored keywords? (用审查词攻击网站有什么用呢?)

Remember that [it-is-not-possible-to-block-a-single-page-of-an-https-website]

The 2019 [nine-nine-six-icu] event however brought to my attention that Chinese (usually WebKit-based) browsers are already censoring HTTPS websites selectively of course, see e.g.: https://github.com/996browser/996.BROWSER/tree/77f28a36a862e3cc4d238dc47c19872156096bc4

But Ciro doubt developers use those browsers, right? The only way would be for China to forbid foreign browsers entirely.

BTW, [ensi] brings a whole new dimension to HTTPS by encrypting the domain name as well!

4.4.2.1. Is Stack Overflow blocked in China? (Stack Overflow 在中国被封锁了吗?)

There was no clear evidence of that as of April 2020: https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/267715/is-stack-overflow-accessible-in-china/288497#288497

It worth noting however that as mentioned at Is Stack Overflow blocked in China? (Stack Overflow 在中国被封锁了吗?) that websites can become non-functional if CDNs they rely on are taken down, instead of the website being taken down itself.

For example, Stack Overflow relied on Google for some of its JavaScript and on Imgur for images, both of which are blocked in China.

4.4.3. Keyword attack profiles disturb me (关键字攻击个人资料页打扰我)

But isn’t it better to be annoyed than having war, being poor or put into jail unfairly?

Another good option is to use the trusty [cac-report-website].

Installing any of those immediately give you 10 Sesame Points, 习万岁.

See also: Does Ciro Santilli want to harm the Chinese programmers? 三西猴想要伤害中国程序员吗?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwCyQINNXwE "What is more obscene: sex or war?" scene from The People vs. Larry Flynt (1996). Ciro just can’t stop thinking about that scene when someone tells him that his profile disturbs them. What is more obscene? [xi-jinping-memes] or human rights violations?
4.4.3.1. Browser extensions to hide keyword attacks (隐藏关键字攻击的浏览器扩展)

If the truth is too much for you to bear, worry not, you could use one of:

  • Greasyfork browser extensions

    • https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/32236-stackoverflow净化器 "StackOverflow净化器" (Stack Overflow cleanup)

      • GitHub user with the same username: https://github.com/EternalPhane

        • https://github.com/eternalphane/UserScripts repo with that source, and a related issue: eternalphane/UserScripts#4 by https://github.com/SiqingYu

      • https://web.archive.org/web/20181211094818/https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/32236-stackoverflow%E5%87%80%E5%8C%96%E5%99%A8

      • https://web.archive.org/web/20181211094917/https://greasyfork.org/en/forum/discussion/47981

    • https://twitter.com/guangyang_li/status/1204880709636124672 dude admiring it: https://github.com/gyli

    • 2020-07-09 https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/406756-ciro-santilli "Ciro Santilli"

      • https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/406756-ciro-santilli/discussions/53697

      • Some possible authors (of course, with that name, there must be 10 thousand Chinese people at least):

        • https://english.meta.stackexchange.com/users/156741/li-xiaodong

        • https://github.com/DoyleLi from Intel

  • a custom ad terminator expression shown at: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#87 stackoverflow.com##a[href="/users/895245/ciro-santilli-%e6%96%b0%e7%96%86%e6%94%b9%e9%80%a0%e4%b8%ad%e5%bf%83%e6%b3%95%e8%bd%ae%e5%8a%9f%e5%85%ad%e5%9b%9b%e4%ba%8b%e4%bb%b6"]

  • https://gist.github.com/chenx6/97d912a6ef623f5142f69f44b580c1a0 replaces Ciro’s username with "Ciro Santilli my mother died".

4.5. Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (外国人不应该干预中国政治)

  • For better or worse, China and other countries happen to be located in the same planet.

    If China’s economy is bad, the economy gets worse in other countries.

    If China’s environment is bad, the environment gets worse in other countries.

    If China starts a war, other countries will have to fight it.

    If China fails to control a viral outbreak, other countries might get infected.

  • Millions of Chinese people disagree with their government, but can’t say anything about it, otherwise they will go straight to jail. See also: Section 4.7.1.2, “Most Chinese people like their dictatorship (中国大众支持他们的独裁)”

  • Chinese people have been brainwashed by the commies who say that all foreigners are bad, more than the West has been brainwashed to think that he CCP is bad: Non-Chinese people have been brainwashed by the USA know nothing about China (非中国人被美国洗脑,对中国一无所知)

  • China would never ever try to influence foreign countries, would it? E.g. [belt-and-road-initiative], Confucius institute (孔子学院), [cgtn].

  • If I marry a Chinese woman, my mother-in-law might be unfairly put in jail :-)

  • The CCP would not be in power if it weren’t for the Second Sino-Japanese War (如果没有抗日战争,中共就不会执政) and if the Soviet Union helped out Mao:

  • You can’t do anything about it.

    In the end, this is what all politics comes down to: power.

    In some sense, this may be similar to the CCP and any other political party.

    But conversely: Will the keyword attacks really help to destroy the firewall? (关键字攻击真的有助于破坏防火墙吗?).

    Nobody can hear you
    Figure 20. House of Cards S01E02 "Nobody can hear you. Nobody cares about you. Nothing will come of this." GIF. Source.
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=SRPiE59e8NU House of Cards S01E02 Officer: "Some guy was trying to get into the building, when we said "no" he started tearing his clothes off." Frank: "Nobody can hear you. Nobody cares about you. Nothing will come of this. Why don’t you let these nice gentlemen take you home?" video clip. Interpretation: https://movies.stackexchange.com/questions/94608/what-can-we-make-out-of-the-final-scene-from-house-of-cards-season-1-ep-2

Why don’t you go instead shitpost in one of the following repositories and which are written in Chinese by Chinese citizens, many of which have many times more stars than china-dictatorship, and therefore are much more effective at taking down the GFW? GitHub repositories with censored information (政治敏感的GitHub库).

See also:

  • Is Ciro Santilli Chinese? (三西猴是中国人吗?)

Duplicate pool: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues?q=label%3Ayou-are-not-chinese-argument

4.5.1. The CCP would not be in power if it weren’t for the Second Sino-Japanese War (如果没有抗日战争,中共就不会执政)

TODO study further to confirm:

  • https://www.quora.com/How-much-is-Japan-to-blame-for-the-KMT-losing-control-of-the-Chinese-mainland

  • https://china-journal.org/2018/02/26/why-did-chiang-kai-shek-lose-china-the-guomindang-regime-and-the-victory-of-the-chinese-communist-party

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/毛泽东感谢日本争议

  • https://www.japanpolicyforum.jp/diplomacy/pt20160517095311.html (Japanese state media, but cites sources)

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Communist_Revolution mentions:

    The French historian Lucien Bianco, however, is among those who question whether imperialism and "feudalism" explain the revolution.[7] He points out that the Chinese Communist Party did not have great success until the Japanese invasion of China after 1937. Before the war, the peasantry was not ready for revolution; economic reasons were not enough to mobilize them. More important was nationalism: "It was the war that brought the Chinese peasantry and China to revolution; at the very least, it considerably accelerated the rise of the CCP to power."

    And China would be much much less technologically advanced had it come in contact with the West, from which it is still trying to learn/steal from: University espionage (大学间谍).

    Foreign influence can be both good or bad.

  • http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2005/07/12/2003263221/ (BIASED) says:

    War histories from both Japan and the Republic of China clearly indicate the scale of the CCP’s "participation." From 1937 to 1945, there were 23 battles where both sides employed at least a regiment each. The CCP was not a main force in any of these. The only time it participated, it sent a mere 1,000 to 1,500 men, and then only as a security detachment on one of the flanks.

    There were 1,117 significant engagements on a scale smaller than a regular battle, but the CCP fought in only one. Of the approximately 40,000 skirmishes, just 200 were fought by the CCP, or 0.5 percent.

    Not even the CCP can provide any data on its number of casualties in the war, and there are no memorials to CCP heroes in the war to be found in China. This makes one wonder what China really did contribute

4.5.2. Non-Chinese people have been brainwashed by the USA know nothing about China (非中国人被美国洗脑,对中国一无所知)

Everyone is "brainwashed" by their environment.

E.g. people in the West are brainwashed to believe in democracy, freedom of speech and human rights.

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) doesn’t doubt that Chinese people know more about China than him.

Saying that "someone is not Chinese, he does not understand China", is just an useless Ad hominem (訴諸人身) argument and closely related to Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (外国人不应该干预中国政治).

Since you know so much about China, why why don’t you just actually prove your point by teaching Ciro one single interesting about China that Ciro didn’t know about? He loves learning new things.

But please, link to reference material instead of just saying it, it will be much more convincing.

But if you are Chinese, also consider that you have been brainwashed by the commies, so likely much more than Ciro since you live in a dictatorship.

See also:

  • Western democracies are not perfect (西方的民主有很多缺点).

  • Ad hominem (訴諸人身)

4.5.3. The CCP exaggerates the threat of the West to keep in power (中共夸大了西方要继续掌权的威胁)

First, obviously, Western democracies are not perfect (西方的民主有很多缺点).

However, the CCP greatly exaggerates how evil the West is, because making your people constantly afraid is a classic strategy used by dictators to stay in power.

Or in fable form:

Once upon a time, there was a farmer with a farm.

One day, the animals on the farm started feeling a bit trapped, and started bumping against the fence to get out.

The farmer, however, was smart, and told the animals:

Careful! There is a wolf outside! If you go out, you will be eaten by the wolf!

The animals, were not that smart, and listened to the farmer, they were afraid!

From time to time, one of the animals would disappear (and without their knowledge, reappear on the farmer’s dinner table).

But the farmer kept giving the animals delicious food without them making any effort, so they decided to believe the farmer’s explanation that animal had escaped and been eaten by the wolf.

Maybe, there was actually a wolf outside. But if they had escaped, only some of the animals would have been eaten by that wolf.

But by staying on the farm, all the animals were, sooner or later, eaten one by one.

TODO source.

This theme is also highlighted in many well known works/events.

North Korea for example, China’s good and trusty friend, is just a caricatural level of this, since it manages to be more a dictatorship than even China itself!

In fiction, [nineteen-eighty-four] is undoubtedly the most prominent example, in which the Party constantly switches from being at war with one country to the other in a never ending perpetual war (exactly like North Korea vs South Korea, or China vs Taiwan (Republic of China, 台湾, 中華民國)).

One of the best related quotes comes in Part Two, Chapter 9 when Winston reads Emmanuel Goldstein’s subversive text, one of the chapters contains (emphasis by Ciro):

The war, therefore, if we judge it by the standards of previous wars, is merely an imposture. It is like the battles between certain ruminant animals whose horns are set at such an angle that they are incapable of hurting one another. But though it is unreal it is not meaningless. It eats up the surplus of consumable goods, and it helps to preserve the special mental atmosphere that a hierarchical society needs. War, it will be seen, is now a purely internal affair. In the past, the ruling groups of all countries, although they might recognize their common interest and therefore limit the destructiveness of war, did fight against one another, and the victor always plundered the vanquished. In our own day they are not fighting against one another at all. The war is waged by each ruling group against its own subjects, and the object of the war is not to make or prevent conquests of territory, but to keep the structure of society intact. The very word 'war', therefore, has become misleading. It would probably be accurate to say that by becoming continuous war has ceased to exist. The peculiar pressure that it exerted on human beings between the Neolithic Age and the early twentieth century has disappeared and been replaced by something quite different. The effect would be much the same if the three super-states, instead of fighting one another, should agree to live in perpetual peace, each inviolate within its own boundaries. For in that case each would still be a self-contained universe, freed for ever from the sobering influence of external danger. A peace that was truly permanent would be the same as a permanent war. This—​although the vast majority of Party members understand it only in a shallower sense—​is the inner meaning of the Party slogan: WAR IS PEACE.

This is also the first line of the party slogan, which perfectly resonates with the CCP:

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

or in Part One, Chapter 3:

Since about that time, war had been literally continuous, though strictly speaking it had not always been the same war. For several months during his childhood there had been confused street fighting in London itself, some of which he remembered vividly. But to trace out the history of the whole period, to say who was fighting whom at any given moment, would have been utterly impossible, since no written record, and no spoken word, ever made mention of any other alignment than the existing one. At this moment, for example, in 1984 (if it was 1984), Oceania was at war with Eurasia and in alliance with Eastasia. In no public or private utterance was it ever admitted that the three powers had at any time been grouped along different lines. Actually, as Winston well knew, it was only four years since Oceania had been at war with Eastasia and in alliance with Eurasia. But that was merely a piece of furtive knowledge which he happened to possess because his memory was not satisfactorily under control. Officially the change of partners had never happened. Oceania was at war with Eurasia: therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia. The enemy of the moment always represented absolute evil, and it followed that any past or future agreement with him was impossible.

https://youtu.be/74Mw3N6WxG0?t=174 Cant Get You Out of My Head S01E05 Part Five The Lordly Ones also (2021, BBC) mentions that a huge propaganda machinery was created to spread the fake news that [tiananmen] was an evil western plot.

Duplicate pool: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues?q=label%3Aevil-west+

Bibliography:

  • https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/master/us_atrocities.md

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcoBv6ibh8M The excessive fear of external country theme is also mentioned in https://youtube.com/watch?v=TcoBv6ibh8M V for Vendetta (2005) "What you think will happen" scene., where a viral outbreak is used by governments to increase their power over the people.
4.5.3.1. Friendly West-China moments (中西友好时刻)
4.5.3.1.1. United China Relief (葛思德)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bettis_Garside

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/葛思德

United China Relief was the largest humanitarian effort in the United States to aid the Chinese people up to that time. The organization, which was renamed United Service to China (USC) after the Second World War, raised over US$50 million in donations over ten ten years.

United China Relief 3 million Chinese
Figure 21. 1942 billboard by United China Relief that reads "3,000,000 Chinese have given their lives for democracy. What have you given?"

4.6. Ciro Santilli and this page are completely biased against the Chinese Government! (三西猴和本页完全对中国政府有偏见!)

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) prefers the term focused :-)

That being said, Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) takes the agenda of information sources very seriously.

E.g. he tries to clearly classify Communist Party, Falun Gong, and Western government-linked information sources.

If we had more Western democracies are not perfect (西方的民主有很多缺点) content, then maybe this repository would be considered a more reputable source by Chinese people.

However, there are a few practical problems to that:

  • there is freedom of speech in the West and people can already see that information on newspapers who have a million times more viewers than this repo (and still obviously no conclusion was reached), there’s no need to repeat that here

    Conversely, bad China news are always OK because, because those are all censored in China and help Chinese people learn about it.

  • flooding The CCP exaggerates the threat of the West to keep in power (中共夸大了西方要继续掌权的威胁) posts is a primary [wumao] tactic

  • The CCP exaggerates the threat of the West to keep in power (中共夸大了西方要继续掌权的威胁) information is already abundantly accessible to Chinese people in Chinese via any CCP media: [chinese-government-media].

  • people’s minds cannot be changed, and notably not in a language that most people of a country don’t understand. This is why the primary goal of this repo is the Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击): it does not require changing people’s opinions.

For those reasons, we currently forbid, posting several evil-West news without explaining why dictatorships handle it better. It would just generates more noise than signal.

If you do explain however why dictatorships/China handle it better, then the post is welcome.

Any political material that is censored by any country besides China, will also be readily accepted.

Any evidence of positive political progress towards freedom will also be added to this repo, e.g. people openly discussing politics online, human rights activists doing political stuff and not being put into jail, etc.

See also:

  • Does Ciro Santilli support Falun Gong just because his wife and mother-in-law do it? (三西猴是否仅仅因为他的妻子和岳母就支持法轮功?)

  • Is Ciro Santilli a radical? (三西猴是激进分子吗?)

4.6.1. Ciro Santilli’s claim to the Qing Dynasty throne (三西猴清朝皇帝觊觎)

Ciro Santilli’s Ciro Santilli’s wife (三西猴的老婆), her mother, and paternal cousin, believe that Ciro’s wife is the descendant of the brother of a recent Qing emperor through her father’s family.

Although they have not been able to produce concrete evidence, which could be explained by the endless political turmoils in 20th century China, Ciro decided that this would be a good bet to take, and married her anyway.

If anyone is able to provide further evidence of this relationship, please, please, please get in touch.

One thing to keep in mind is that the [qing-dynasty], like the previous [ming-dynasty], used Generation names (行辈), such that the first character of the given name is the same for all people in a given generation (counted directly from the first emperor that adopted the rule.

For example, this wiki page contains a good family tree of the most important Qing people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_tree_of_Chinese_monarchs_(late)#Qing_dynasty and we see that many important people around 1861 were Zai 載something, e.g.: Zaichun, Zaiyi, Zaitian, etc.

The last emperor was Puyi, so Pu is the last well known mark. But there were others planned that never got used for after him as shown at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisin_Gioro#List_of_generation_prefixes.

  • Zai (before Pu)

  • Pu (wife’s great-grandfather)

  • Yu (wife’s grandfather)

  • Heng (wife’s father)

  • Qi (wife)

  • Dao (wife’s children). At least one thing is decided from this: Ciro’s children Chinese names will all be Ai Dao Something.

The family tree that Ciro has reconstructed orally from his mother-in-law is:

  • Ciro’s wife:

    • Father: Ai Dayi (艾大义) born: 1932 in Shenyang, see also: Ciro Santilli’s father-in-law (三西猴的)

      • Father: Ai Xikang (艾锡康) So why did he not use Yu?

        • Father: Ai Pushan (艾溥?), so the Pu character is presumed from the generation name, to be the same generation as Puyi. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaitao has a Pushen (溥伸), but he died at 13 years old in 1928, so its not the one.

        • Younger brother 2: Ai Xiyuan (艾锡?) Professor at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeastern_University_(China) Apparently had no Children.

        • Younger brother 3: Ai Xicong (艾锡?) Graduated in law in Japan in Waseda University Was the top official of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Police_Agency_(Japan) in China when it was occupied by Japan (警察廳长) Passed first by Taiwan.

        • Younger brother 4: Ai Xiying (艾锡?)

        • Younger brother 5: Ai Xifu (艾锡?) Together with Ai Xiying, they were went to the Republic of China Military Academy and were high ranking officials in the war against the Japanese in the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sino-Japanese_War (八年抗战). Later was a congressman in Taiwan.

    • Younger sister: Ai Shiping (艾世?)

    • Older brother: Zhao Yingjie. Studied law in Japan also at Waseda University.

Many of them have had different names in different places/countries, notably many used the name 肇(Zhao) rather than 艾.

Further anecdotal indicators follow.

Ciro’s wife and family are clearly of the Manchu ethnicity just by looking at them, and they originally lived in the North East of China

Ciro’s wife’s family name is the 艾, pronounced "ai4", which she claims is a reference to the 愛 (also pronounced ai4) in Aisin Gioro (愛新覺羅氏), which is the name of the Manchu ruling clan of the Qing dynasty.

艾 iself is however a somewhat common family name, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ai_(surname) mentions that it is listed in the Hundred Family Surnames (百家姓), a list of common surnames compiled in the [song-dynasty] with around 400.000 members as of 2008. Presumably members of the falling Qing dynasty chose that relatively common Chinese name to avoid persecution, while still retaining a bit of their history.

Bibliography:

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_of_the_House_of_Aisin_Gioro

  • https://www.zhihu.com/question/34813921 现在清朝皇室的后代现状如何? What is the current status of the descendants of the Qing royal family?

  • https://www.quora.com/Are-there-any-descendants-of-the-Qing-Dynasty-left-currently

  • https://arxiv.org/pdf/1412.6274.pdf "Y Chromosome of Aisin Gioro, the Imperial House of Qing Dynasty" unknown year. Unfortunately Ciro’s wife does not have an Y chromosome like her father. This does however mention the book used as a genealogy reference: https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/愛新覺羅宗譜.html?id=Pj4EAQAAIAAJ 愛新覺羅宗譜 On Douban: https://book.douban.com/subject/4162448/ gives ISBN 9787507713428 On Amazon unavailable: https://www.amazon.com/dp/7507713423. Lol this makes this repo show up at: https://paperswithcode.com/paper/y-chromosome-of-aisin-gioro-the-imperial

Ciro Santilli portrait as Qing emperor
Figure 22. Ciro Santilli’s portrait as Qing emperor. Original image.

4.6.2. Ciro Santilli’s father-in-law (三西猴的)

Ciro’s father-in-law, who he barely met, was very old when he had Ciro’s wife, and passed away before Ciro could talk a lot with him, they only saw each other once or twice over Skype, he died soon afterwards.

Having a child late which is consistent with the claims that he spent several years in jail during Mao’s purges, see also: Ciro Santilli’s wife (三西猴的老婆). Being an educated person was a crime in those days, and he was a chemical engineer.

His brother and sister both managed to escape to the USA and Japan, but he took his grandma’s advice and stayed in China.

Ciro’s wife adores her father, who she strongly resembles, and it is a huge shame Ciro didn’t manage to meet him better.

Like his daughter, he was a bibliophile, foodie, Buddhist and incredibly morally upright.

The fact that he survived so many years in prison also attests to his incredible hopefulness and mental health: Ciro Santilli’s mother-in-law (三西猴的岳母) always tells how many other prisoners killed themselves in those days out of hopelessness. Ciro’s wife shares that amazing quality, which Ciro also believes is compatible with the Royalty theory.

After jail, he actually stayed in the same shitty city where he had been imprisoned, and continued to work as a chemical engineer to make a living and try and improve the country that had so badly betrayed him a few years back.

He also seemed to be an amazing story teller, of which he knew many. At one point, a jail cook took him under his wing, even tough he did not know how to cook too well yet, just to hear his stores. Being highly intelligent, the father-in-law man learned to cook too of course.

Another remarkable episode is when he was working in the prison kitchen, and some man was starving and asked for food. He told the man to come later during the evening. The man came, and he gave him a bowl that seemed to be full of cooked vegetables (likely 白菜). The next day, the man came back, and kowtowed him. Beneath the vegetables, he had hidden some good chunks of then very precious meat!! This story makes Ciro cry.

4.6.3. Ciro Santilli has a preconceived opinion about China that cannot be changed (三西猴对中国成见很深,无法改变)

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) tries to justify why he think China would be better with democracy, but I know that ultimately all of this is useless.

Everyone’s opinions are all determined genetically and by bring-up, and there is nothing he can do to change yours, or you change his.

From that point of view, all of this is just a cold blooded political game, in which Ciro tries to force the CCP to take down the Firewall: Why attack websites with censored keywords? (用审查词攻击网站有什么用呢?).

Ciro never gets mad about China, even if your opinion is contrary to his, and therefore wrong.

Using the reply policy is one of the reasons why Ciro never gets mad.

Ciro also has doubts about the efficiency of certain things I do as expressed throughout this FAQ, e.g. Embargoes make dictatorships stronger (禁运使独裁更强大).

Also, Ciro have never said that anyone else is wrong.

In the end, he just end up thinking about new replies to things people say to him, and add them to this FAQ so that future replies will be faster to copy paste. See also: Doesn’t Ciro Santilli have anything better to do than pissing off China? (除了反对中共以外,三西猴有没有别的更好的事儿要作吗?).

The real goal of any online discussion, is not to convince people, but rather to determine who is an ally and who is not, and get those allies together to defeat the commies.

4.6.4. Does Ciro Santilli support Falun Gong just because his wife and mother-in-law do it? (三西猴是否仅仅因为他的妻子和岳母就支持法轮功?)

Not consciously, Ciro thinks would likely support them even if I didn’t have family ties to [falun-gong].

Likely he wouldn’t have started this campaign if he didn’t know them of course.

But of course, this is impossible to answer objectively.

Wouldn’t you be rather upset if your mother in law were put into jail unfairly for 15 days?

But don’t you think that 70 million people (6% of the total population in 2000!) getting completely squashed by the Party illustrates extremely well the dangers of the dictatorship?

Or if a Jew has escaped a concentration camp and told the world about its horrors, would you just dismiss their claims due to their biased opinion?

With that in mind, Ciro tries his best to give FLG only the right level of exposure I think it deserves relative to other events, according to these guidelines: How does Ciro Santilli choose keywords for the keyword attack? (三西猴如何为关键词攻击选择关键词?).

If more recent events of mass human rights violations happen, especially affecting in the order of tens of million people, I will probably rank higher than Falun Gong, this was the case for Xinjiang in 2019 for example, even though it only affected a measly million.

4.6.5. Why did Ciro Santilli start his keyword attack? (为什么三西猴开始他的关键字攻击?)

The last straw that led Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) to start the Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击) on Stack Overflow was when on March 2015 his girlfriend’s mother was arbitrarily kept 15 days in jail for doing [falun-gong]. He posted about this at:

  • https://twitter.com/cirosantilli/status/579270450984984576

  • https://www.facebook.com/cirosantilli/posts/952661734753174

He then continued because he hate political censorship, and because I love China.

Every time Ciro thinks about this, he notices how stupid humans are. We see the forest fire smoke, and just never think that it will ever reach your home on the border of the forest.

Until it actually does, and then you are really fucked.

So in a sense it was a good thing that Ciro had this little backyard fire with this mother-in-law, as it woke him up further to how serious the CCP thread was, and led him to action.

Because before that, he was one of the majority who just constantly hears about the increasing mountain of evidence of human rights violations, and does nothing about it.

The Darkest Hour (2017) film comes to mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA1Uz_TMzhs. The movie shows that Britain was truly hesitant whether to negotiate or fight Hitler, even after the Nazis had already started invading other European countries, and would clearly not stop. Luckily, we are not at a position of war yet, and might never be due to nuclear weapons. But still, a similar blindness applies. Censorship of the 2019 Corona Virus (2019冠状病毒病早期迹象审查) woke up many people, but even then some haven’t faced it.

4.6.5.1. Ciro Santilli’s mother-in-law (三西猴的岳母)

Put in jail for 15 days for doing Falun Gong in 2015: Ciro Santilli’s post when his mother-in-law was put into jail for doing Falun Gong (岳母因修炼法轮功入狱时的帖子).

Some related remarks: [flg-daily].

4.6.5.2. Ciro Santilli’s post when his mother-in-law was put into jail for doing Falun Gong (岳母因修炼法轮功入狱时的帖子)

Maybe some people would be happy if their mother-in-law were put into jail. But unfortunately, this wasn’t the case for Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的).

Ciro Santilli with his mother in law during his wedding in 2017
Figure 23. Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) with his soon-to-be mother-in-law before his wedding in 2017. Annoying? Sometimes. But threat to the fucking Chinese State? How fucked does your political system have to be for the answer to be a "yes"?
4.6.5.2.1. Jail post en

My girlfriend’s mother, a 63 year old lady, was kept 15 days inside a Chinese "correctional facility" because she does Falun Gong.

She had to stay all the time in a small room with a bed and a toilet, under video surveillance, being fed three meager meals a day.

I see Falun Gong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong as just another moderate religion which causes no harm to its believers. The only reason that it is unofficially outlawed in China is because the communists fear it as a political competitor.

There was no trial and no explanation. She was going to take a train to visit her sister. But she didn’t know that there was an important political event happening in the capital: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_National_People’s_Congress So the police at the station, who already knew she did Falun Gong, took her away.

When she came back home, the house had been searched and was all messed up. Her religious books and computer were missing.

I’m glad she was not physically harmed. I find it fascinating how even well educated Chinese support a government which simply does not represent some of its people. How will you feel when something like that happens to your own family, and there is nothing you can do about it?

4.6.5.2.2. Jail post zh

Translation by my wife:

我女朋友的母亲,一位63岁的女士被监禁在一个中国的"劳教所",只因为她炼法轮功。

她被迫待在一个小屋子里面,只有一张床和一个排泄的地方,一直处在监视器下,每天两个窝头一碗只有几个白菜叶的汤。

我看过法轮功https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong 只是一个和平的信仰,对相信它的人没有任何坏处。它在中国被非官方的定为违法(其实没有一项明确法律禁止),唯一的原因就是工产党害怕它是一个政治竞争对手。

没有审讯没有任何解释。她正准备坐火车去看她的姐姐。但是她并不知道那个时候有重要的政治会议正在首都进行:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_National_People’s_Congress 所以那些知道她炼法轮功的铁路警察把她带走了。

当她回到家中时,房子被搜查过了,四处一切混乱。她的信仰书籍和电脑都没有了。

我很庆幸的是她身体并没有受到伤害。我觉得很意思的是一些受过良好教育的中国人怎么能够迫害一部分它的人民的政府呢?如果这样的事情发生在你的家庭,而你什么都不能做,你会怎么想?

4.6.5.2.3. Jail post pt

Translation by myself:

A mãe da minha namorada ficou 15 dias num "centro de correção" chines porque ela faz Falun Gong.

Ela ficou o tempo todo num quarto pequeno com uma cama e banheiro, sobe videovigilância, recebendo 3 refeições pequenas por dia.

Para mim, o Falun Gong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falun_Gong é apenas mais uma religião moderada que não causa nenhum problema para seus crentes. A única razão pela qual ele é proibido na China é porque os comunistas tem medo dele como competidor politico.

Não houve julgamento nem explicação. Ela ia pegar um trem para ver sua irmã, mas ela não sabia que teria um evento político importante na capital: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_National_People’s_Congress Então a polícia da estação, que já sabia que ela faz Falun Gong pegou ela.

Quando ela voltou pra casa, a casa tinha sido procurada pela polícia e estava uma bagunça. Os livros religiosos e seu computador foram confiscados.

Eu fico feliz apenas que ela não sofreu abuso físico. Eu acho fascinante como mesmo muitos chineses educados apoiam ainda um governo que não representa parte do povo. Como você vai se sentir quando algo do tipo acontecerá com a sua família, e você não pode fazer nada sobre isso?

4.6.5.3. Further details about Ciro Santilli’s mother-in-law’s persecution (三西猴岳母受迫害的更多细节)

March 2015: 15 days in jail for no reason: https://www.facebook.com/cirosantilli/posts/952661734753174. They took her computer. When she left jail, she asked to get it back, and a cop said they would only give it back if she paid 10,000 yuan for it.

June 2017: 3 cops came to her house. She was there. They asked if she still did Falun Gong. She said yes. They took photos of her Falun Gong books/posters. They were polite.

October 2017: 7 - 8 cops came to her house at 11PM. They knocked the door strongly and made noise, and questioned neighbours of her whereabouts. Luckily she was not there.

4.6.5.4. In the Tweet about his mother in law, Ciro Santilli says "correctional facility", but reeducation through labour has been abolished

He was not very precise here, the precise term is "jail". He was not talking about: [re-education-through-labor]. Unfortunately it is not possible to edit a Tweet.

4.7. China is fine as it is, stop making it worse (中国很好,别让它变得更糟)

Welcome to the wonderful world of democracy, a world where people can have different political opinions than you :-)

If you are so fine, why are you reading this at all? Go back to being fine.

See also:

  • Why would China be better without its Dictatorship? (为什么没有独裁的中国会更好?)

  • Ciro Santilli has a preconceived opinion about China that cannot be changed (三西猴对中国成见很深,无法改变)

4.7.1. I like my Dictatorship (我喜欢我的独裁统治)

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) can understand that.

There are concrete advantages to being a dictatorship, see e.g. Dictatorships have greater development variability (专政具有更大的发展可变性), Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (为什么民主和言论自由能够让中国变得更加富有?), making good radical changes like simplifying your insane writing system.

And it must feel good to have absolute truth in the Cult of Xi, and let the black police get rid of weirdos for you.

But what happens when the dictatorship turns again you our your family? Will you fight, or will you just let them do whatever they want because they can never be wrong? See also: Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities (大多数中国人不关心少数民族).

And when your son betrays you or sacrifices himself for the Dictator, will you just smile and accept it in pride?

What happens when the dictator declares waw, and if you protest against it, you will go to jail?

Intolerance is a risky way to live.

See also: Seventeen Moments of Spring (1973, 春天的十七个瞬间, Soviet series about a Soviet spy against the Nazis, 关于苏联间谍反对纳粹的苏联系列)

4.7.1.1. Seventeen Moments of Spring (1973, 春天的十七个瞬间, Soviet series about a Soviet spy against the Nazis, 关于苏联间谍反对纳粹的苏联系列)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeen_Moments_of_Spring

  • https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Семнадцать_мгновений_весны_(телефильм)

Soviet mini-series about about Stierlitz, who is an undercover Soviet spy acting as a Nazi officer in Nazi Germany during WW2.

As a fun note, it seems that [putin] is a Stierlitz fan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stierlitz#cite_note-Sakwa-5, and Putin also served in Germany like Stierlitz, but in Dresden, which was in East Germany.

A scene from the awesome mini-series comes to mind when thinking about I like my Dictatorship (我喜欢我的独裁统治).

In Episode 7, Stierlitz travels on a train with a Nazi officer.

The war is almost over, and the desolate officer tells Stierlitz:

I told my children: I hate any democracy!

No democracy in our Reich!

Any democracy in our country is doomed to end up with one thing: the dictatorship of small shopkeepers.

The more freedom we have, the sooner we want to be controlled by SS troops again.

And then we want our the secret police back, and concentration death camps again, and the universal fear everywhere! Only then we feel calm and secure.

No need to prove your point of view in defending the fate of the homeland.

No responsibility.

Just raise your hand in honor of him, who will take care of everything for you,

Just shout out "Hail Hitler!" and everything will become understandable.

No more worries.

https://youtu.be/pc6DP1jNEec?list=PLHiAMOiVIvsD2u8g0RLwvdRScEe9yiUr5&t=1527 Seventeen Moments of Spring (1973), Episode 7, general confession scene.

It is amusing to see Soviet series criticizing dictatorships, given that the Soviet Union was itself a major dictatorship!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xoM6-1SWl4&t=191 The Living Dead Episode 1: On the Desperate Edge of Now by Adam Curtis (1995) describes how the Nazis, disilusioned by both democracy and communism, built Nationalism by creating a mythical past. In Nationalism, the individuals would surrenders themselves to the State.
4.7.1.2. Most Chinese people like their dictatorship (中国大众支持他们的独裁)

It is easy to reach an agreement, when everyone who disagrees goes to jail or gets killed for to [inciting-subversion] or [picking-quarrels].

This is exactly Herman Goring said in his appearances on the Nuremberg trials to justify the atrocities of Nazism.

Also ask the millions of people who were affected by [tiananmen], [falun-gong], Xinjiang (新疆) or [dissidents].

One is reminded of the game "We Happy Few" (2018), which which people are forced to be happy. [nineteen-eighty-four] also comes to mind of course.

The interesting thing, is that even those pro-CCP are much more likely to stay anonymous because:

  • you never know when something you said will become a sin against some new trend of the dictatorship

  • when the dictatorship inevitably falls, you would be persecuted by the victorious freedom fighters

We cant complain
Figure 24. Westerner: "How is life in China?" Chinese: "Oh, we can’t complain." Westerner: "That’s awesome." Chinese: "No, seriously…​ we can’t." is a word play between the more common "we can’t complain because everything is great" and "we can’t complain because Xi will make us disappear". Source
We cant complain zh
Figure 25. Translation of the above.
Scarfolk public displays of personal distress are unpatriotic
Figure 26. "Public displays of personal distress are unpatriotic" spoof poster by [scarfolk-council] (2017). Source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xoM6-1SWl4&t=1606 The Living Dead Episode 1: On the Desperate Edge of Now by Adam Curtis (1995) comments on how interviews with Hermann Goring (赫尔曼·戈林) during the Nuremberg trials (纽伦堡审判) went: "Again and again, Jackson accused Goring of corruptly using his powers to commit crimes. Each time, Goring replied that such acts might be considered crimes in a democratic state, but that in Germany, democracy had failed. Eliminating the political opposition was necessary, to fulfill a higher principle: that of the Nation. And that it had worked, Goring insisted. It had brought order and prosperity to Germany". Jackson asks: "Well, if you wanted a certain people killed, you would have to have some organization that would kill them didn’t you?". Goring replies: "This was the only possible form of government at the time and it proved that Germany could be pulled out of the abyss of misery, poverty and unemployment and withing a short space of time be made flourish and bloom." This is exactly the justification given by the CCP for oppressing minorities and freedom of speech: the CCP is indistinguishable from the Nazis.
Anonymous middle fingers
Figure 27. Presumed Chinese people giving the middle finger (竖中指) to various [ccp] symbols, most notably [xi-jinping]. Even if this was made by the CIA, it perfectly illustrates the point that obviously no one speaks against the CCP because otherwise they will be put in jail. If you are going to do this, for Fuck’s Sake please cover your fingers, like the ones using gloves, or the banknotes, because if the photo resolution is good enough, you could be identified by your fingerprint. A r/China repost. This photo seems to be the result of a campaign started by GFWfrog (墙国蛙蛤蛤) in response to the 100th anniversary of the Party in 2021. This was also explained at: https://chinadigitaltimes.net/chinese/667778.html on [china-digital-times]. Related: [anonymous-account-ban]. This project was perhaps inspired by pro CCP images celebrating the 100 years such as https://archive.ph/OJGHl/5f09f24ce2e3f856b08e79cdade72ad2af72e9a0.jpg from https://kknews.cc/culture/gmnl5vy.html on [kknews]. Source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y2FIqfIpiw (GitHub reupload) Give [xi-jinping] the middle finger silly GIF by GFWfrog (墙国蛙蛤蛤) 给习近平竖中指由墙国蛙蛤蛤傻逼视频. Source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zndzntIDLFE IGN review of the "We Happy Few" (2018) game.
4.7.1.2.1. Chilling effect (寒蝉效应)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/寒蟬效應_(法律)

It is really interesting to see how many people star the GitHub repository, and then a few minutes later they think about how they might get put in jail, and then unstar it.

Unstarring events are exceedingly rare in Ciro’s other repositories.

The expression two steps forward, one step back comes to mind.

Luckily in this case, it does not seem possible to view who unstarred a repository after the fact:

  • https://stackoverflow.com/questions/51072418/how-can-i-determine-when-a-user-unstarred-a-repo-using-the-github-graphql-api

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-hCdbsyWw0 "my paranoia as a Russian YouTuber" by [nfkrz] (2020) talks about the Chilling effect (寒蝉效应)
4.7.1.2.2. View all users who starred a repository on GitHub including those who unstarred

The Chilling effect (寒蝉效应) is extremelly visible on GitHub.

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) is able to see this easily because the star notification remains in the GitHub dashboard even after unstarring.

However, star events are also publicly visible permanently on events API under the WatchEvent: https://docs.github.com/en/developers/webhooks-and-events/events/github-event-types#watchevent

This appears to get them all from GitHub Archive's Google BigQuery up to the last whole month:

SELECT actor.login, MAX(created_at)
FROM `githubarchive.month.*`
WHERE type = 'WatchEvent'
AND repo.name = 'cirosantilli/china-dictatorship'
GROUP BY actor.login
ORDER BY MAX(created_at) DESC

Ciro verified that does include people who unstarred.

That one exceeds the free data limits as of December 2021 however, so you need to select more specific months/years at a time. Note that year data is only released once every year.

The following ranges manage to get all data as December 2021 for free:

FROM `githubarchive.year.201*`
FROM `githubarchive.year.202*`
FROM `githubarchive.month.2021*`

supposing that unique starrers

You can then "Save results" as CSV to view all users.

There don’t appear to be unstar events however. You can see single people star multiple times, which means that each new star gives a new row, which is why we do the GROUP BY.

4.7.1.3. Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities (大多数中国人不关心少数民族)

How can you be that certain that your children won’t have dissident ideas and be punished unfairly for them?

Intolerance is a risky way to live. Everyone is part of one minority in one way. If all minorities were oppressed, everyone would be oppressed.

Dictatorships crush minorities much more than democracies.

Do think the majority of the Chinese people would vote to put 50 year old [falun-gong] meditating aunties in jail, if the CCP hadn’t made a huge propaganda campaign and used an iron fist?

Are the Chinese really that selfish to vote for this oppression, even as the free media would show videos of meditating old ladies in jail on national television? Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) does not believe this.

Minorities are put in jail because the CCP fears them. Dictatorships can only survive if there is zero difference in opinion in the population.

The famous quote from Evelyn Beatrice Hall (伊夫林·比阿特丽斯·霍尔) comes to mind:

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
我不同意你的意见,但我以死捍卫你说话的权利”

See also:

  • First they came (起初他們)

  • [rule-of-law]

  • Intolerance (1916) film

4.7.1.3.1. First they came (起初他們)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_…​;

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/起初他們……

This text comes in relation to the Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities (大多数中国人不关心少数民族) shown by brainwashed Chinese to the oppression of minrities. In it, the priest Martin Niemöller regrets not having supported the rights of his opponents that were unfairly treated by the Nazi Government:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak for me.

A translation from Wikipedia:

起初,纳粹抓共产党人的时候, 我沉默,因为我不是共产党人。

当他们抓社会民主主义者的时候, 我沉默,因为我不是社会民主主义者。

当他们抓工会成员的时候, 我沉默,因为我不是工会成员。

当他们抓犹太人的时候, 我沉默,因为我不是犹太人。

最后当他们来抓我时, 再也没有人站起来为我说话了。

4.7.1.3.2. It is fine for the CCP to treat some of its citizens unfairly if the majority is better off (如果大多数人过得更好,那么中共不公平地对待一些公民是可以的)

See:

  • Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities (大多数中国人不关心少数民族)

  • The Chinese masses are still uneducated, and not fit for free speech and democracy 中国大众愚昧,不能好好选领导

4.7.1.3.3. This is Ciro Santilli’s personal problem, we have nothing to do with it, stop punishing us for it (这是三西猴的个人问题,我们与此无关,不要因此而惩罚我们)

We have to fight for justice for our fellows, or else when injustice happens to us, no one will fight for use either: Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities (大多数中国人不关心少数民族).

Every form of protest incurs some damage. E.g., if we manifest on the street, it generates a traffic jam.

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) doesn’t like it, but he thinks it is worth it.

If you just work to make money and have a good life, without any plans to improve the government, you are just making the economy of the dictatorship stronger, then when they start a war or kill yet another minority, blood will also be on your hands. See also: What should Western countries do about China? (西方国家应该怎么对待中国?).

4.7.1.3.4. If anyone disagrees with the government they must be punished to keep the stability of the country (如果有人不同意政府,他们必须受到惩罚以保持国家的稳定)

The most possible stable state is a Why does Ciro Santilli say that China is a dictatorship? (中国不是独裁!) like Nazi Germany. Except for the part where they try to take over the world and fail. This is exactly what China is becoming: the freaking Fourth Reich (希特勒只有一个蛋, 1939).

Destroying diversity is the best way to reach a point where everyone can agree to start a new big war and destroy everything.

The CCP thrives on the excessive fear it instigates into its own people.

How can society improve, if we are never allowed to try new things out?

Change in democracies does not require violence. Violence happens because the government punishes any dissidence, even if pacific, to retain its own power.

In democracies, radical policy changes happen without dropping a single drop of blood. People vote, and policies change, end of the story. In JFK’s words:

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable

See also:

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonviolent_revolution#As_it_relates_to_democracy

  • https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Address_on_the_First_Anniversary_of_the_Alliance_for_Progress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXRG7yiqR3I Passage of Kennedy’s discourse that contains the quote "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable".

4.8. There are bad things happening all over the world, why doesn’t Ciro Santilli fight for those causes as well/instead? (世界各地都有不好的事情发生,为什么三西猴不为这些原因而战/相反?)

We have to choose the one we think is the worst, and focus on it.

What is worse is a subjective choice. For Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的):

  • he loves China and Ciro’s Chinese wife, see also: Ciro Santilli and this page are completely biased against the Chinese Government! (三西猴和本页完全对中国政府有偏见!), and doesn’t want it to get fucked further by the CCP

  • he hates dictatorships, and China is the largest one by population/GDP/nuclear stockpile, and therefore the most dangerous

Ciro SO username and protest time are not infinite.

However, it is good that different people have different interests, and someone will surely be fighting for whatever cause you care about.

See also:

  • [russia]

  • [thailand]

  • Western democracies are not perfect (西方的民主有很多缺点)

4.8.1. Western democracies are not perfect (西方的民主有很多缺点)

That is definitely true.

Nothing is perfect in this world.

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) just believes that they are way better than a Why does Ciro Santilli say that China is a dictatorship? (中国不是独裁!) like China, and that the Chinese government brainwashes its people to think that the West is evil to stay in power.

As Churchill once brilliantly put it:

Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.

However, this is all obviously subjective, and believing that dictatorship is a better form of government is also a valid belief, e.g. Dictatorships have greater development variability (专政具有更大的发展可变性).

If you find an event on a Western democracy that you would like to highlight, send a pull request.

We will not however include events that are not currently censored.

Every country did fucked-up things in the past, the question is if they currently allow discussion about it or not.

Posts that only mention "evil West" non-censored events without adding anything to the discussion will be marked as I want to take my chances and make a shitpost in cirosantilli/china-dictatorship (屎帖子) and treated as such, since spamming those is the primary [wumao] technique to stop intelligent discussion.

The reason why "Evil China" posts are not shitposts in general on the other hand, is that they have one specific purpose: to destroy censorship.

This "Western censorship copypasta string" was posted automatically by a bot during r/China purge day:

North Dakota Access Pipeline Protests 北达科他州接入管道抗议
Ferguson Riots 弗格森暴动
2017 St. Louis protests2017 年圣路易斯抗议活动
Nuclear testing at Bikini Atoll 比基尼环礁的核试验
Unite the Right rally 团结右集会
Charlotte riots 夏洛特暴动
Attack on the Sui-ho Dam 袭击穗河水坝
Milwaukee riots 密尔沃基骚乱
Shooting of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile 奥尔顿·斯特林和菲兰多·卡斯蒂利亚的射击
Occupation of the Malheur NationalWildlife Refuge Malheur国家野生动物保护区的占领
death of Freddie Gray 弗雷迪·格雷的死
Shooting of Michael Brown迈克尔·布朗的拍摄
death of Eric Garner, Oakland California 奥克兰奥克兰市埃里克·加纳(Eric Garner)逝世
Operation Condor 神鹰行动
Occupy WallStreet 占领华尔街
My Lai Massacre 我的大屠杀
St. Petersburg, Florida 佛罗里达州圣彼得堡
Kandahar Massacre 坎大哈屠杀
1992 Washington Heights riots 1992年华盛顿高地暴动
No Gun Ri Massacre 无枪杀案
L.A. Rodney King riots 洛杉矶罗德尼·金暴动
1979 Greensboro Massacre 1979年格林斯伯勒大屠杀
Vietnam War 越南战争
Kent State shootings肯特州枪击案
Bombing of Tokyo 轰炸东京
San Francisco Police Department Park Station bombing 旧金山警察局公园站爆炸案
Assassination of MartinLuther King, Jr. 小马丁·路德·金遭暗杀。
Long Hot Summer of 1967 1967年炎热的夏天
Bagram 巴格拉姆
Selma to Montgomery marches 塞尔玛到蒙哥马利游行
Highway of Death 死亡之路
Ax Handle Saturday 星期六斧头
Battle of Evarts 埃瓦茨战役
Battle ofBlair Mountain 布莱尔山战役
McCarthyism 麦卡锡主义
Red Summer 红色夏天
Rock Springs massacre 岩泉大屠杀
Pottawatomie massacre 盆大屠杀
Jeju uprising 济州起义
Colfaxmassacre 科尔法克斯大屠杀
Reading Railroad massacre 阅读铁路大屠杀
Rock Springs massacre 岩泉大屠杀
Bay viewMassacre 湾景大屠杀
Lattimer massacre 拉蒂默大屠杀
Ludlow massacre 拉德洛屠杀
Everett massacre 埃弗里特屠杀Centralia Massacre 中部大屠杀
Ocoee massacre Ocoee大屠杀
Herrin Massacre 赫林大屠杀
Redwood Massacre红木大屠杀
Columbine Mine Massacre 哥伦拜恩矿难
[guantanamo-bay]
extraordinary rendition 非凡的演绎
Abu Ghraib torture and prison abuse 阿布格莱布的酷刑和监狱虐待
Henry Kissinger 亨利·基辛格 [iranian-coup-1953]
Eight-Nation Alliance (八國聯軍) (1900)
Unequal treaty (不平等条约) (1842-1933)

See also:

  • Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (为什么民主和言论自由能够让中国变得更加富有?)

  • Ciro Santilli has a preconceived opinion about China that cannot be changed (三西猴对中国成见很深,无法改变)

  • Ciro Santilli and this page are completely biased against the Chinese Government! (三西猴和本页完全对中国政府有偏见!)

  • The United States has recently started several wars and killed millions! (美国最近发动了几场战争,造成数百万人死亡!)

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism

Free speech umbrella
Figure 28. Signe Wilkinson 2017 Free Speech "Can you just move it so it doesn’t cover them?" (TODO proper translation, with a quickly fixed up Google Translate: 你可以移动雨伞以使其不会遮盖住他们吗?) umbrella cartoon. Ciro once saw a [wumao] post this. It made him smile. If the cartoon were about dictatorships, Uncle Sam would be instead decapitating and raping the people on one half of the umbrella. Of course humans are shit in democracies as well, but at least that system makes it harder for them to oppress each other. Source.
Guantanamo bay protest London 2008
Figure 29. At cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#260 ((archive)a [wumao] posted this image of [amnesty-international] protesters outside the American embassy in London in September 2008 protesting against the [guantanamo-bay] camps. The wumao used this to criticize Guantanamo bay, saying that it was like Xinjiang "re-education" camps (新疆再教育營, 2017-) but in the USA, apparently unaware that this was a staged protest. So it actually has the exact opposite effect than intended: because there is no [censorship], here people in the West can together to denounce something they don’t like. Imagine if a crowd of 100 people in China got together to denounce the Xinjiang camps! They’d go to jail immediately. Furthermore as Ciro repeated a million times: Guantanamo bay detainees are not American citizens, and democracies cannot fully protect people who can’t vote. In China however, no one can vote, so everyone can be oppressed. Source.
China imperialism cartoon
Figure 30. French political cartoon from 1898 by Henri Meyer showing leaders of Western powers, Russia and Japan splitting up China between them. The CCP would arguably not have raised to power if not due to Japanese interference. Maybe the West deserves the Nazi CCP they helped create, much like post World War I treaties helped create Nazi Germany. Colonialism was horrendous. As a Brazillian, Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) knows this all too well. Source.
4.8.1.1. Two wrongs don’t make a right (积非成是)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_don%27t_make_a_right

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/積非成是

4.8.1.2. The West is racist against black people (西方人对黑人有种族主义)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_United_States

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/美国种族主义

Label: racist-west

wumaos notably mention:

  • George Floyd

  • 乔治·弗洛伊德之死

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_can%27t_breathe

    [wumao]'s started posting "I can’t breathe" everywhere, to which some people on Twitter replied "I can’t tweet" and [rebel-pepper] made a cartoon: https://www.rfa.org/english/cartoons/twitter-china-cartoon-06052020164712.html

The murder video went viral and was not taken down (would have been in China), all four officers were charged, and the event sparked nation wide protests:

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lives_Matter (黑人的命也是命)

Of course there is racism in the West. And we must recognize that, and fight it.

But Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) feels strongly that the Chinese are also obviously at least as racist against blacks, if not more, based on conversations he’s had/overheard, and other circumstantial indications:

  • https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/25/coronavirus-exposed-china-history-racism-africans-guangzhou

Oh, and the USA, and other Western countries besides Germany, were also racist against Jews, e.g. Richard Feynman could not be admitted in certain universities due to a Jewish quota, even though he was not a believer himself, therefore based on race alone!

Racism in the West vs China George Floyd vs Xinjiang
Figure 31. Racism in the West vs racism in China. Of course there is racism in the West against black people. But the people have the choice to speak up against it to try and change things. In China however, speaking up against Muslim racism, means going to jail. Image sources: murder of George Floyd, George Floyd protests in Philadelphia, Xinjiang prisoners, Tiananmen Square on 2021-06-03, the anniversary of [tiananmen].
4.8.1.2.1. You criticized China so you are racist (你批评中国,所以你是种族主义者)

As of the 2020’s, given the importance of political correctness in the West, some wumaos have tried to turn to this line of defense.

Of course, it rarely works, because criticizing a government is different from criticizing a race.

This is something however that wumaos have trouble understanding, because their Nazi estate insists that [the-group-is-the-only-way], and that CCP equals China.

This does however highlight one of the fundamental dangers of any type of [censorship], including political correctness: what if you are criticizing something that is actually bad?

4.8.1.2.2. We Don’t Hire Blacks by Aaron Dewitt (我们不雇用黑人, 2020)

This amazing video was originally uploaded to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d81mEbL8Yw8 by [aaron-dewitt] on 2020-09-21 but it was down as of 2021-06-21. Last [wayback-machine] archive as of that date: 2020-11-03.

The video description was:

This is an exposé of racist companies that I worked for, some of which operate in the United States and Canada, all of which are headquartered in China.

In it, Aaron describes his experiences with the recruitment team of one of his former employers, an unnamed "Chinese ed-tech company in Beijing", for which he worked in human resources. In another also deleted video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6uFGGunRxc he mentions that he cannot mention the name of the company because he was under NDA.

Notably, in that video, he gives several screenshots of Google Sheets spreadsheets with explicitly racist reasons why people were not hired, one of which is reproduced here. Examples of such reasons include:

  • "Skin color"

  • "Non-Caucasian"

  • "62-years old"

  • "elderly"

  • "Hispanic"

He mentions:

On the first day at this company, I had an orientation with my supervisor Ng, who is the head of the training department. She told me:

"We hire blacks. Obama black is OK. But no darker, or they’ll scare the kids. The kids will think they’re some kind of monster!"

which would lead parents to just go to a competitor instead. Then he mentions about the Google Sheets documents that:

They shared this document with the entire management team in Beijing, and everyone not only knew, but expected this discrimination to take place.

In the video he also explains how he once went to a 2 week holiday to Bali, and when he came back with his skin darker due to the tanning, he was reprimanded by a manager, who said that he could not work looking like that.

He explicitly mentions later the video that VIPKid, for which he did not work, is a similar company in nature, but not the one he is talking about.

Wikipedia mentions about VIPKid

Its online-classroom portal enables students to receive 25-minute English language lessons from fluent English-speaking teachers.

In March 2019, VIPKid fired two American teachers for discussing the 1989 [tiananmen] and Taiwan (Republic of China, 台湾, 中華民國) with their students in China. Teachers have also reported witnessing child abuse when teaching lessons, but they found little recourse to report such issues.

As of 2021-05-05, the banner image of VIPKid’s website explicitly includes a token black person: https://web.archive.org/web/20210505045920/https://www.vipkid.com/, so their PR department clearly caught air of this. This is however only a frontend for hiring American teachers. The real Chinese client website https://www.vipkid.com.cn/, rest assured, contains no black people: (archive)

VIPKids had a 3 billion valuation in https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/21/chinas-vipkid-which-links-native-english-speakers-with-online-learners-raises-another-500m-reportedly-at-3b-valuation/

Wikipedia links as one of its sources to this 2019 article https://www.wired.com/story/when-online-teaching-job-becomes-window-child-abuse/ which mentions:

Of the dozens of companies vying to cash in on the tutoring business, it is by far the largest, having raised $825 million in investment capital since its founding. Other major players include Qkids, Magic Ears, DaDa, and Gogokid, all based in China.

so it is overwhelmingly likely that one of those is the one mentioned Aaron is talking about:

  • Qkids

  • Magic Ears

  • DaDa

  • Gogokid

Later in the video Aaron mentions that the company in question "basically went bankrupt".

He also mentions that he later worked for offcn, which is run by the Chinese Government, and they would absolutely not hire black people.

We don t hire blacks by Aaron DeWitt 2020
Figure 32. Screenshot of the video We Don’t Hire Blacks by Aaron Dewitt (我们不雇用黑人, 2020) showing a list racist job interview candidate rejection reasons.
4.8.1.3. Western democracies have invaded other countries and crushed separatism (西方民主国家侵略别国粉碎分裂主义)

Yes, Western democracies are not perfect.

What matters is that citizens can disagree with those actions, publicly say it, vote accordingly, and not go to jail, so that policy will be changed if the majority so wants.

In China, the minority controls the majority, and the majority cannot say anything even if they disagree.

If the majority wants to do evil however, evil will get done, it is impossible to prevent that.

People from other countries don’t vote for your politicians in democracy. Therefore, democracies cannot protect them.

What democracy does do well is to reduce the chance that enough of the population will be brainwashed into starting war with other superpowers and destroy the world.

Do you really think China wouldn’t invade a country they need resources from because they are more humane?

[too-young-too-naive]. China is already invading its own citizens right now as of 2020 to obtain resources! Xinjiang "re-education" camps (新疆再教育營, 2017-). And it is using the exact same excuse as the American politicians: terrorism!

Even when the US invades another country, the people who support the US enemy can still pick up arms and fight. And Russia can send help if they want to annoy the Americans, making local resistance stand an actual chance. But when you oppress your own people, they are completely defenseless, and 100% certain to be fully oppressed, since no foreign country would risk world war 3 by sending help.

Do you really think that the CCP would give a fuck about invading other countries? And furthermore, China is specifically oppressing Islamic people in Xinjiang, exactly the same religion of people who live where? In the Middle East.

Xinjiang is China’s Middle East.

The reason the USA has invaded countries in the Middle east and China hasn’t yet is a mixture of:

  • the USA is more developed, and has greater fuel needs, and greater capacity to carry such a war.

    Although as we’ve seen, they’ve been essentially losing those wars quite often now, by not saying long enough to establish a new stable government.

    Part of their defeat is also due to [russia], and increasingly China, helping the other side however.

  • the Middle East is full of dictatorships, and dictatorships are natural allies of other dictatorships therefore it is more likely that they won’t invade one another.

  • the Cold War is still fresh in the American mind. Oil is crucial to fight a war. Countries will do anything to survive, even if it means killing others.

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) is not saying that any of this justifies the actions of the Western powers in the Middle East. But simply that it has nothing to do with democracy or non-democracy.

See also:

  • Separatism (分离主义, Taiwan 台湾, Xinjiang 新疆, Hong Kong 香港)

  • Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (为什么民主和言论自由能够让中国变得更加富有?)

4.8.1.4. Western democracies also censor subjects such as child porn and hate speech (西方民主国家也审查儿童色情和仇恨言论等主题)

First, child porn and hate speech are also banned in China, so shut up. every type of speech is less free in Why does Ciro Santilli say that China is a dictatorship? (中国不是独裁!).

Second, if you don’t think child porn should be banned, there isn’t much point in arguing with you.

Now, hate speech is a very complex subject. Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) does feel that we should be very careful when banning hate speech, and he is not sure if it should be banned at all, as perhaps it might just make matters worse.

But of course, there is also censorship in Western democracies, and there is a gray area between what should be censored or not.

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) only argues that there is on type of speech that must never ever be censored: political speech.

This way, the majority can always discuss and vote to change what can be censored or not.

In China, however, trying to discuss such changes in laws puts you in jail, so bad laws cannot be changed. This lack of freedom also gives the impression to many brainwashed Chinese that dicatorships are better because you see less conflict online. Which is great, until your human rights are violated, and you’ve got no one to talk to.

The lack of ability to discuss political problems leads to extremely serious problems:

  • Democracies have less corruption than dictatorships (民主国家的腐败比独裁国家少): politicians can censor anything bad that they did to stay in power

  • Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (为什么民主和言论自由会让中国不太可能发动战争?): if the CCP leaders decide that a war must be made, everyone who opposes it will go to jail, and the war will be made

  • Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities (大多数中国人不关心少数民族): if the CCP decides that some minority is a danger to their power, this minority gets fucked

Deciding on hate speech, means having to decide what level of hardcoreness we are willing to accept, and there is no clear right or wrong answer.

For example, which of the following do you think should be banned:

  • This scientific study suggests that white people do less well in IQ tests.

  • This scientific study suggests that black people do less well in IQ tests.

  • I’m an idiotic irrational racist and I dislike white/black people. I won’t kill them, but I dislike them, and I can’t change that, I’m really sorry.

  • Let’s all gather together and kill our black/white/gay/straight/Muslim/Christian neighbours tomorrow.

  • Let’s all gather together and kill our oppressive dictator/president tomorrow.

Ciro believes that none of the above should ever be censored, because any form of "hate-speech censorship" immediately opens a precedent for political censorship.

If someone is idiotic enough to organize illegal acts like hurting someone publicly before doing it, it will just make it easier for them to get caught.

And if its just empty words, just block those idiots to not see their posts, or downvotes their posts to reduce their impact.

And if the majority supports idiotic acts like killing someone because of their race, it will get done in a democracy regardless, because that’s what democracies do: they cater to what the majority wants.

There’s not point in censoring them. Such censorship only makes things worse, as the perpetrators will use that as publicity for their cause.

See also:

  • Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (为什么民主和言论自由能够让中国变得更加富有?)

  • Most Chinese people don’t care about the minorities (大多数中国人不关心少数民族)

  • Overton window

4.8.1.4.1. Fake news (假新闻)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fake_news

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/假新聞

When a government controls all information to make it look good, and no one can challenge it, you cannot trust any of the news produced by that country, as anything could be fake.

It is much better to have some fake news, but also few sources that are likely telling the truth.

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) is also extremely critical of Western social media companies such as Twitter (推特) and Facebook which have censored "fake news" from real legitimate accounts or real people, which is a point that Trump has justly criticized in Ciro’s opinion.

If it is from a Chinese/Russian botnet, sure, destroy those accounts.

But from legitimate accounts of citizens? The people have to decide for themselves what is fake or real, not you, Twitter and Facebook. If the majority is made of idiots who believe in fake news, then so be it, that’s how democracy works.

Censoring any citizen, no matter how stupid you think they are, creates a precedent for dictatorship, and even an incentive to terrorism.

More interesting case is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_First_Amendment_Institute_v._Trump. Ciro feels strongly that people who try to have meaningful discussions on Twitter should automatically lose a lawsuit, and that people should be able to block whoever they want from their personal controlled accounts or forums. It is only the companies who provide the forum service that must be neutral.

4.8.1.4.2. Unjust social media censorship in the West (西方不公正的社交媒体审查)
  • Trump social media bans:

    • 2021-03-31 https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2021/03/31/conservatives-blast-facebook-for-removing-trump-interview-with-daughter-in-law/ "Conservatives Blast Facebook For Removing Trump Interview With Daughter-In-Law". This perfectly illustrates why it is unreasonable to ban someone from social media. You end up having to ban anyone who supports them as well.

    • 2021-01-09 https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/09/the-deplatforming-of-a-president/ "The deplatforming of President Trump" has an overview: Twitter permaban, Facebook indefinite time, Google store removed Parler from App Store, Apple store soon followed: https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/09/apple-suspend-parler-from-app-store/ [tiktok] censorehttps://techcrunch.com/2021/01/07/tiktok-bans-videos-of-trump-inciting-mob-blocks-stormthecapital-and-other-hashtags/ And Amazon announced a Parler block with 24 hours advance: https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/09/amazon-web-services-gives-parler-24-hour-notice-that-it-will-suspend-services-to-the-company/

      All of those banning should not be done. If the people want to rebel, they must be allowed to communicate and rebel.

  • 2020-10-12 https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/12/facebook-in-a-reversal-will-now-ban-holocaust-denial-content-under-its-hate-speech-policy/

  • 2020-08 Kevin Cernekee fired from Google for conservative views

    • 2020-08-27 https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/06/google-whistleblower-cernekee-pushed-alt-right-views-former-colleague.html "Internal Google memo claimed conservative whistleblower promoted alt-right views"

    • It appears to be legal in the US for companies to fire employees based on political beliefs:

      • https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-employers-discriminate-based-on-political-beliefs-or-affiliation.html

        Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) however believes that discussing politics at work is not an efficient way to go about it, because you will be discussion amongst a small group of people since companies are opaque to the outside. Unless maybe if you feel that you employee is directly attempting to influence politics in a way that you feel is unfair.

        Ciro believes without evidence that unfortunately anti-discrimination-hiring laws are likely inefficient, as it is too hard to convict anyone. And that providing equal education through scholarships to unprivileged groups and university entry selection where examiners cannot see the applicant’s race is the only way.

  • YouTube

    • 2020-12-09 https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/9/22165355/youtube-biden-election-victory-misinformation-rules-remove-content-oan "YouTube will now remove videos disputing Joe Biden’s election victory".

      • YouTube’s announcement: https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/supporting-the-2020-us-election

    • 2020-11-24 https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/24/youtube-suspends-and-demonetizes-one-america-news-network-over-covid-19-video/ "YouTube suspends and demonetizes One America News Network over COVID-19 video"

  • Facebook

    • 2020-11-10 https://techcrunch.com/2020/11/09/parler-app-store-facebook/ "'Free speech' social network Parler tops app store rankings following Biden’s election win"

  • Twitter (推特)

    • 2022-04 Elon Musk is trying to buy Twitterna, and will reverse some of that bullshit:

      • https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1519036983137509376

      • https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1507259709224632344

    • 2021-01-08 https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2020/suspension.html "Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump" Archive of suspended account: https://archive.vn/SSHX6

    • 2020-10-06 https://www.vox.com/recode/2020/5/28/21273241/section-230-explained-trump-social-media-twitter-facebook "Section 230, the internet free speech law Trump wants to repeal, explained". While repealing the law entirely would be stupid, Trump is right that it has given platforms too much control over the media. Except for dictatorial foreign governments, or explicitly illegal material, social media platforms should never remove or comment on any content.

    • 2020-05-29 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-52846679 Twitter "hides Trump tweet for 'glorifying violence'". The people elected that idiot, Twitter leftists have to swallow that.

    • 2021-01-11 https://www.irishexaminer.com/world/arid-40204808.html "Angela Merkel sees Twitter’s cancelling of Donald Trump as 'problematic'"

  • Amazon

    • Twitch 2021-04-07 https://techcrunch.com/2021/04/07/twitch-off-platform-harassment-policy/

Minor:

  • https://techcrunch.com/2021/04/30/basecamp-employees-quit-ceo-letter/ 2021-04-31 Basecamp sees mass employee exodus after CEO bans political discussions

YouTube:

  • 2021-10-07 https://techcrunch.com/2021/10/07/google-youtube-climate-change-denial-ban/ Google and YouTube say they won’t allow ads or monetized content pushing climate denial

  • 2021-09-29 https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/29/youtube-will-now-ban-content-with-vaccine-misinformation/ YouTube will now ban content with vaccine misinformation

Related: some Western [flag-desecration] censorship at [flag-desecration]

4.8.1.4.3. Censorship of "politically incorrect speech" (审查政治不正确言论)

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) strongly believes that this is a problem with Wester social media. For example in Stack Overflow forbids criticizing the character of genocidal political leaders like Xi Jinping Stack Overflow forbade Ciro from saying:

I think Trump is disgusting as a person

because they thought Trump would become sad and cry.

Western governments should pass laws that prevent this kind of arbitrary political censorship by companies.

But of course as usual: censorship in a dictatorship like China is always a million times worse.

Please enjoy this politically correct cartoon
Figure 33. "Please enjoy this culturally ethnically religiously and politically correct cartoon responsibly" cartoon by Michael Shaw from the New Yorker (2006) makes a reference to the fact that all humour is a criticism of something, and that excessive political correctness can be used as a way to limit free speech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiqDZlAZygU Rowan Atkinson (Mr. Bean) defending freedom of speech in the context of the Reform Section 5 campaign to remove all criminalization of insults. The campaigns slogan was "Feel free to insult me!". He then quotes: "The strongest weapon against hateful speech is not repression, it is more speech" from an Obama speech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNjYSns0op0 Munk Debate on Political Correctness (2018) features Stephen Fry and Jordan Peterson speaking against political correctness. Those dudes are awesome. https://youtu.be/rJOMYEXK6cs?t=150 summarizes it well.
4.8.1.5. Western society is extremely unequal (西方社会极度不平等)

Exactly! And this is something Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) fights daily against through his open source contributions.

And politicians don’t really care enough. Partially because:

  • the poor don’t have access to proper education and vote less often

  • corporations pay for their election campaigns

  • many of the politicians are rich themselves

But do you really think that further increasing the power concentration as done is China is going to help reduce inequality?

If so, you have been brainwashed beyond reason. Increasing the concentration of power will obviously make society even more unequal and corrupt, never less.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHFrhIAj0ME Can’t get you out of my head - Part 1 (2021) documentary by Adam Curtis for the BBC. This awesome documentary suggests and explains why Western politicians care less and less about the people, and why Western companies have gained more and more power. It also mentions how after China gave up on communism and became a capitalist country, it completely lost any guiding ideal. The West still had the ideal of democracy. But for China, there was only one thing left: money. Our dear [xi-jinping] is of course doing his best to instill nationalism into China to fill that void. What could possible go wrong with that?
4.8.1.6. Life of Brian (布莱恩的一生, 1979)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python%27s_Life_of_Brian

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/蒙提·派森之布莱恩的一生

This movie was almost banned in Britain at the time due to lobbying by Christian groups as shown in The secret Life of Brian (2007).

Key scenes:

  • Nazi Jew scene from The Life of Brian

4.8.1.6.1. The secret Life of Brian (2007)

Documentary about Life of Brian (布莱恩的一生, 1979).

Key points:

  • [sacred-cows]

4.8.1.7. Snowden (斯诺登)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Snowden

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/爱德华·斯诺登

Censoring anyone who says "my president is shit", which is what China does, is much, much more serious than censoring intelligence leaks.

The problem with dictatorships, is that they make every information that makes them look bad a "state secret". Including any information that hundreds of thousands of people have witnessed, or economic performance metrics! See also: [internal-censorship].

The level of unknown surveillance that Snowden uncovered is a bad thing about the US.

Snowden’s prosecution was inevitable. Countries need secret services. Secret services need laws that prevent leaking classified information that was produced by government officials.

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) has never and will never criticize China or any other country for spying or prosecuting spies.

If Snowden were Chinese, the Chinese government would ban talking about him or anything he uncovered. A keyword attack with "Snowden" in the West has no effect.

It is obvious that the level of surveillance in any dictatorship will be infinitely higher, since the Government has much more power and no-one can criticize.

On the West however, the debate Snowden sparked cannot be censored, and has helped to control excessive and secret state power.

Ultimately, Ciro thinks camera surveillance is somewhat inevitable, because people will always want to fight crime and terrorism and surveillance technology keeps getting cheaper and cheaper.

He is however strictly against the ban of cryptography.

He also believes that a good solution to balance out government power is the Second amendment (美國憲法第二修正案). It is better to have more school shootings and less full-blown dictatorship led genocides / mass human rights violations.

In 2019 China amusingly censored passages Snowden’s "Permanent Record" autobiography book, which Snowden then published on Twitter:

  • https://twitter.com/snowden/status/1194092273170038784 (archive)

  • https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/dv5q8o/china_censors_edward_snowdens_new_book_he/ (archive).

As a Redditor put it:

I don’t think they understand that what Snowden stands for is completely the opposite of what the Chinese gov is lol

Snowden then later released the entire Chinese version of the book for free online with the censored parts underlined: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/02/10/snowden_china_censorship (archive), link to the book: https://a.temporaryrecord.com/Permanent_Record_-_CN_edition_with_underlined_redactions.pdf (archive). One wonders why he didn’t just do that in the first place for all versions, maybe he needed to pay the writer that helped him?

Snowden
Figure 34. Snowden highlighted defects on abuses of power in a Western democracy, and the discussion he sparked helped to control such abuses. To obey is to betray comes to mind. Source.

https://youtu.be/MhJldILZhJ8?t=138 "A matter of internal security: the age old cry of the oppressor". Picard, Star Trek: The Next Generation s03e11 "The Hunted". video::MhJldILZhJ8[youtube,height=400,width=600,time=138]

4.8.1.8. Bad things have been done in the name of freedom (以自由的名义人做过很多坏事)

E.g.: September 11th.

Bad things have been done in the name of anything.

It’s just that much, worse things are done without freedom than with it.

Democracies cannot necessarily protect weak countries from powerful ones either. No political system can do that, because humans are trash essentially.

What democracy do is to protect its own people against its own government. Because when the government turns against part of the population in a dictatorship, that part of the population gets crushed entirely, without any chance to fight, because they don’t have an army or ally countries like other countries do.

Here are some images that [wumao]'s like to post:

  • Left Right Slaughterhouse comic: https://9gag.com/gag/ayn7KmW?ref=fbp

4.9. Is the Chinese government evil? (中国共产党是邪恶的吗?)

Obviously not, just inefficient and dangerous.

It is just another non-democratic empire like the [qing-dynasty], we might as well cal it:

共产朝
The Communist Dynasty

Expression previously mentioned at: https://web.archive.org/web/20161025220242/http://tieba.baidu.com/p/752094668

Like any other organization and individual everywhere in the entire world, they are just doing everything that they can to maintain their own power.

It just happens that China’s the current is political system allows the CCP to do really bad things.

And it should also be noted that it is in part the West’s fault that China currently has this shitty system.

[falun-gong] thinks otherwise of course, they think the CCP is actually made up of real actual devils in some dimension: [does-ciro-santilli-believe-in-or-practice-falun-gong]. E.g. on the https://endccp.com/ Falun Gong lead campaign:

The demon CCP has plundered the ancient land of China

4.9.1. Chinese politicians really care about the Chinese citizens (中国政客真正关心中国公民)

Sometimes people say Ciro Santilli is naive.

Politicians are the same all over the world.

Some might have good intentions, but most don’t give a shit about anyone else.

But all must play a careful political game, and sometimes betray their own beliefs to not lose power entirely.

Even those that genuinely care might have to play such political games.

China’s problem is not its politicians.

It’s the current shitty political organization, which allows/convinces those politicians to do really bad things: Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (为什么民主和言论自由能够让中国变得更加富有?), Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (为什么民主和言论自由会让中国不太可能发动战争?) and Democracies have less corruption than dictatorships (民主国家的腐败比独裁国家少).

Western politicians don’t care about the people either: Western society is extremely unequal (西方社会极度不平等). But at least they have to pretend a little.

By John Kenneth Galbraith, possibly based on an earlier [soviet-union] joke https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ocasio-cortez-capitalism-quote/:

Under capitalism, man oppresses man. Under socialism, it’s just the opposite.

4.9.2. Is Chinese politician X evil? (中国政客X邪恶吗?)

The term evil does not make sense unless you are religious.

The best definition of evil is a psychopath with zero empathy for anyone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy although this can be better characterized as a disease or extreme personality trait.

The huge majority of those politicians are just regular dudes with a knack for politics but brought up in a fucked up political situation.

Just like you, Ciro Santilli and other politicians in any country.

See also: [politicians].

4.10. Comparisons between the CCP and Nazi Germany (纳粹德国和中共长得很想)

The more Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) learns about the Nazis, the more similar they CCP looks to them. As of 2020, the [ccp] is much more like Nazi Germany than it is like the [soviet-union].

Both CCP and Nazis share the same basic core ideology: capitalism, love your country/leader mindlessly, work hard, throw any dissidents under the bus, and everyone will become richer (except the dissidents who will be in jail or dead).

Thankfully, the CCP is possibly less bad as of 2020 it has less of "this minority (Jews) is the cause of all our problems/racial supremacy approach". But everything else, and arguably the key points that got most German people on-board in the first place, are so similar, that it has to raise huge red flags.

We must however be careful not to demonize the Nazis, as that is not a helpful way to learn from the past.

The Nazis were also people like us, and that is the scary thing we must never forget, thus we should never fall for:

  • Reductio ad Hitlerum

  • 希特勒归谬法

Notably, it can be argued that the Nazis did bring economic growth and stability to Germany, which the people desperately needed, see also Goring’s appearance on the Nuremberg trials.

Keywords:

  • Xitler (习特勒). 习 "xi2" is very close in sound to the Chinese name of Hitler: 希特勒 (xi1 te4 le4)

  • Chinazi (赤纳粹 Chi Na Cui). TODO why 赤. Means Red, which is a reference to Communism, although red was of course it was also the color of the original Nazis. But where else is it used? Chi is also chosen to achieve the sound "Chi Na" as a variant of Shina (zhina, 支那)

See also:

  • Young Pioneers vs Hitler Youth.

Articles:

  • http://yashalong.blog.caixin.com/archives/188877 这么好的人民,不倒点霉都对不起他们 "These are such good people, if they have a bit of bad luck, excuse them." article by yashalong 押沙龙 published on [caixin]. The article discusses how Nazi Germany propaganda worked, without mention to the CCP, but it was still apparently banned in China.

https://www.southbankresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2020/01/ZHA-issue-2510-free.pdf has a good quote:

Would you have stood up to Hitler when he came to power? Or would you have been an appeaser, like Chamberlain? Or perhaps even a supporter of fascism, like the Daily Mail’s owner at the time?

We all like to imagine we’re courageous enough to stand up to tyranny and persecution. That we would have stood up to the villains of the past. Seen them for what they really were, even helped rescue their victims from danger. We certainly don’t like to think we would have bought their goods or funded, invested in their economies…​

Well today, you’re going to find out what you’re made of.

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Xi Nazi war flag
Figure 35. Photoshopped [xi-jinping] with raised fist with Nazi uniform and flag on the background. Source.
Xi raised fist
Figure 36. Likely original or similar image of [xi-jinping] with raised fist as he took oath when coming into or renewing office. Source.
Nazi war flag
Figure 37. German’s 1938-1945 war flag called the "War Ensign of Germany" in English or "Reichskriegsflagge" in German. Source.
Hitler angry rehearsal
Figure 38. Hitler has of course a few raised fists on Google Images, but they tend to be more aggressive, and less compatible with Xi’s apathic poker face. Source.
Xi mein kampf
Figure 39. Photoshopped cover of Mein Kampf with Xi’s face on top of Hitler’s and other modifications such as Mian instead of Mein, likely the same 面 (mian4, face) as the Chinese character at the bottom right. [xi-jinping-thought] also comes to mind. Source.
Mein kampf
Figure 40. Original cover of Mein Kampf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QERDzr6HSQ How Rich Was Hitler? by Mark Felton Productions (2021) mentions that the success of the book helped Hitler a financially a lot when he was in great need. Ciro speculates that the same applies to [li-hongzhi], which has retained copyright of all his works (despite them being the truth of the universe, a natural force essentially), as can be seen by the copyright notice on https://en.falundafa.org/. Source.
Xi Nazi car salute photoshop
Figure 41. Photoshopped photo of Hitler giving the Nazi salute from a car with Himmler on the background with Xi’s face on top of Hitler’s. Source.
Hitler Himmler salute
Figure 42. Original photo of Hitler giving the Nazi salute from a car with Himmler on the background. This photo shows them reviewing SS troops during a Reichsparteitag (Reich Party Day) parade in Nuremberg (1938-09-05 - 1938-09-12). Source.
Chinazi flag
Figure 43. Chinazi flag (赤纳粹旗) by Hong Kong protesters. Seen on streets. An example of [flag-desecration]. Source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD53MEbLDIE laowhy86 video "Can We Compare China to Nazi Germany?" published on 2020-04-29. Good side-by-side video comparisons. Says that China is more like Nazi than [russia], but Ciro disagrees, all three are evil dictatorships.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn1VxaMEjRU Mitchell and Webb "Are we the Baddies?" Nazi Sketch. In this sketch, Mitchel, a cute self-conscious Nazi, starts to wonder with Webber, his Nazi friend, if they aren’t on the side of evil, particularly due to the usage of Nazi skulls (Totenkopf) on their uniforms. This echoes Goring’s appearance on the Nuremberg trials. Like the CCP, many Nazis thought of course that they were doing great things.

4.10.1. Hitler Has Only Got One Ball (希特勒只有一个蛋, 1939)

We have to make a [xi-jinping] version of this!!!

  • Hitler Has Only Got One Ball

    • 希特勒只有一个蛋小平

  • Possible monorchism of Adolf Hitler

There’s even an Uncencyclopedia page for it.

We have to do a Chinese version. A starting point:

近平,只  有一只蛋
泽东,还好有一个半
泽民,
小平,
Hitler has only got one ball
Figure 44. Left source, right source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1tF-Yrwe3U A version of the "Hitler Has Only Got One Ball" song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1DWJQkOJew The Armstrong and Miller Show "Hitler Has Only Got One Ball" sketch depicts in a funny way the imaginary creation of the song.

4.10.2. Thousand-Year Reich (中华人民共和国万岁)

As mentioned at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Reich&oldid=1054809270#During_the_Nazi_period a popular way of referring to the Nazi rule was as the:

Thousand-Year Reich

In China, a popoular expression for "Long Live" is "万岁", which means "live for ten thousand years".

This comes from old Imperial times, but applies perfectly to the Nazi/CCP analogy.

4.10.2.1. Fourth Reich (希特勒只有一个蛋, 1939)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Reich

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/第四帝國

Neo-Nazis thought they might be the ones. Skinhead newbs. China beat them to it by a mile.

4.10.3. China is like the Borg from Star Trek (博格 (星际旅行和中共长得很想)

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borg

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/博格_(星际旅行)

TODO memes?? Only one image here: https://www.techinasia.com/qihoo-acquistion-updates-sogou-talks-confirmed-chukong-rumors-denied but we need more, e.g. several top commies with Borg photoshop, or even better something showing the people as borgs as well.

Notable mentions:

  • 2019 https://ihare.org/2019/08/07/when-will-the-borg-assimilate-hong-kong-is-resistance-futile/ When Will the Borg Assimilate Hong Kong?: Is Resistance Futile?

  • 2018 https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/a-real-borg-collective-xi-jinpings-china-is-americas-defining-challenge-in-2019 A real Borg collective, Xi Jinping’s China is America’s defining challenge in 2019

4.11. Contributing guidelines (贡献指南)

4.11.1. I want to take my chances and make a shitpost in cirosantilli/china-dictatorship (屎帖子)

So, have you reached the conclusion that your shitpost is worth the risk of getting blocked?

Remember that shitposts can also be creative: if you are going to insult Ciro Santilli, at least do it in a creative way, or else you look like an even bigger idiot than you really are.

A collection of shitposts for you to take inspiration from can be found at: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues?q=label%3Ashitpost+

Also, when opening a shitpost you may mark it clearly such with the shitpost issue template which automatically assigns the shitpost label. Doing so will make you look like less of an idiot.

While we require polite replies to polite posts, no matter what which side they are defending, if a post is marked as a shitpost, things are much more relaxed and fun, and you can generally get away with telling the OP to fuck themselves without getting blocked.

Shit
Figure 45. Real shit photos may be posted in reply to shitposts. Source.
Kin no unko
Figure 46. Amazing shitposts may recieve a Golden Shit award and the golden-shit label. The image is from a Japanese Kin no unko (金のうんこ), which is likely inspired by golden Sycees. Source.
Like shitposts
Figure 47. To censor or not to censor good shitposts: that is not the question, Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) will never censor them! Source.
Caonima
Figure 48. The legendary Grass Mud Horse (草泥马, caonima) is also said to appear in shitposts from time to time.

4.11.2. I am going to write a huge wall of text to prove my point

Feel free to do that, but no one will ever read most of it.

If you want your comment to be read, choose your key point well, and deliver it.

It is a shame that most people who are ever able to do that are shitposters, but credit where credit is due.

4.11.3. Can I contact Ciro Santilli in Chinese? (我可以用中文联系三西猴吗?)

If you don’t know English well enough, that’s fine though, go for Chinese, Ciro Santilli will likely understand it: Does Ciro Santilli speak Chinese? (三西猴会说中文吗?).

But if you do, use English.

Ciro is not going to learn Chinese because of your message.

It is more productive for you to write in English, so that the rest of the West can also learn something new.

Especially since it seems that most Chinese already know what you are talking about, so you are better off teaching Western people about it.

4.11.3.1. I am going to use a bunch of Chinese slangs because it makes me feel smart (我知道网络语言,我很聪明)

Obviously, if you want to be understood, use simple and standard Chinese, since as Ciro has already stated clearly, his Chinese sucks: Does Ciro Santilli speak Chinese? (三西猴会说中文吗?).

Avoid slangs, otherwise Ciro might not have patience to Google your useless slangs down Zhihu questions.

Of course, if you have to read this, you likely are not going to say anything useful in the first place, so not reading your post is likely fine, just make sure to mark it as a I want to take my chances and make a shitpost in cirosantilli/china-dictatorship (屎帖子) if you don’t want Ciro to think you are a complete idiot.

Using slangs makes some people feel smart due their advanced knowledge of a specific subculture, or makes them feel part of that subculture to gather allies. I.e., it is a form of shibboleth. It mainly comes down to a way of avoiding any rational conversation about China’s obvious problems by highlighting Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (外国人不应该干预中国政治).

Or maybe they just want to waste Ciro’s time.

Such idiots don’t see however that every major slang is Googleable, and that every overly obscure slang is already not understandable by a large part of the Chinese population, and won’t be understood by anybody in 5 years, so that you are wasting your time writing this gibberish. But since you are an idiot, it’s not like you have anything better to do with your time, so maybe it doesn’t matter.

If you want to efficiently prevent anyone from understanding your stuff, Ciro recommends that you just use SHA-256 instead:

$ printf 'heil xi' | sha256sum
286b183bf41d6c9de5315bbd64f1ca35a58157ae2e7f38086978c108e67c4882  -

A Chinese insult tip 101, avoid similar sound euphemisms. If you are going to say shit at least grow some balls or tits and use the proper characters, Ciro will respect you more for it:

  • 屄 cunt, most often for 傻屄

    • 逼

      • "sb"

      • "B": cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#105

      • "BB" TODO https://zhidao.baidu.com/question/37819380.html

  • 肏 fuck: 操

  • 傻 idiot: 沙

  • 屌 dick: 屌

Places to try and decrypt Internet slang when you feel like wasting your time:

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/中国大陆网络用语列表

    • "网络用语" is the most common word for "Internet Slang", so also useful for Google searches

    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Internet_slang

Random slangs of interest and related concepts:

  • 火星文 (Martian language). This figures for example in the language rules of the PTT Bulletin Board System (Taiwanese message board, 批踢踢實業坊) joke board: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/joke/M.1602005687.A.E4D.html (禁止使用簡體字、注音文、火星文、外國語言或其他無法直觀理解之內容作為文章主體).

Some useful slangs seen on the wild:

  • 敏感瓷: 敏感词 sensitive words, phonetic approximation

  • "emm" https://www.zhihu.com/question/288002941

GitHub issue label: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/issues?q=label%3Ai-know-slangs-i-smart+

Rugae vaginales with black hole
Figure 49. A Vagina (阴道) also known as cunt (屄), is the female reproductive organ, including the naturally occurring black hole that appears in front of it whenever a picture is taken to prevent GitHub from taking down this page. Even though you’ve never seen one, there’s no need to be afraid of it, and refer to it in euphemisms like "SB". Background source and black hole source.
4.11.3.1.1. Ruhua (to disgrace china, 辱华, 乳华)

Basically a 2 character slang for [hurt-the-feelings-of-the-chinese-people] which cool people in the web use:

  • https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/75717383 天天辱华,辱华的到底是谁? on Zhihu (知乎, censored Quora clone, 审查 Quora 克隆)

  • https://www.dw.com/zh/一系列国际大牌纷纷陷入辱华风波/a-49994530 on [dw]

  • https://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/simp/chinese-news-46314935 on [bbc]

The pardox is: as soon as you start talking about ruhua, you start to risk getting banned in China, because most of ruhua is banned in China itself.

In this project for example: https://github.com/leiroc/insults the author is aiming to create a list of such insults. So someone came and suggested adding this project to the list at: https://github.com/leiroc/insults/issues/4, which is obviouly censored in China, as an example. They even have an [icp-license] at https://insults.cn/, isn’t that cute?

To which the repo owner replied:

感谢提交,这个人有点疯狂了。我就不给加到记录里面了,因为加进去,看到的人就会更加多。对于这些信息不是所有人都有分别真伪的能力。害怕有些人信了他的,或者被他诱导。所以还是让他消声少曝光的好,这些人国家肯定一直在监控的,我们可以放心。

Google Translate:

Thanks for submitting, this person is a bit crazy. I won’t add it to the record, because if you add it, you will see more people. Not everyone has the ability to distinguish between authenticity and falsehood for this information. I’m afraid that some people will believe him or be induced by him. Therefore, it is better to silence him and reduce exposure. These people and countries must have been monitoring them, so we can rest assured.

This perfecly shows the ruhua paradox. In the end, you are only allowed to talk about the most idiotic and insipid events, while censoring any serious self criticism.

The Chinese masses are still uneducated, and not fit for free speech and democracy 中国大众愚昧,不能好好选领导 also comes to mind.

TODO the README says that it is a static blog, but I can’t find the source on GitHub anywhere, that repo contains almost nothing.

The large majority of posts are about Western companies that comply with Chinese censorship requests (遵守中国审查要求的西方公司), because those cowards retract their claims afterwards.

Some sample posts that are not about Western companies:

  • https://insults.cn/posts/4747/ NBA辱华事件是怎么回事?NBA莫雷辱华事件! (What happened to the NBA insult to China? NBA Morey insulting China incident!) about [lebron-james-opposes-hong-kong-anti-extradition-bill-protests-2019]

  • https://insults.cn/posts/60695/ 如何判断一个老外夸中国,是发自真心,还是财富密码? (How to judge whether a foreigner praises China from his sincerity or the code of wealth?) is about [ccp-apologists]

  • https://insults.cn/posts/64035/ 卖国求荣许秀中个人简历:留学生中的败类!汉奸中的“佼佼者”!西方媒体眼中的“宝藏女孩”! is about [vicky-xu]

  • https://insults.cn/posts/65025/ notepad++辱华事件:作者Don HO在推特上公开发表辱华言论 (Notepad++ insulting China incident: author Don HO publicly published insulting remarks on Twitter) about Notepad++

  • https://insults.cn/posts/64915/ 无脑黑中国,孙向文漫画辱华是为了自己要入日本籍,但他至今仍没有如愿 is about [sun-xiangwen]

4.11.3.1.2. Shina (zhina, 支那)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shina_(word)

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/支那

Derogatory or humorous way to refer China. Occurrences:

  • [zhina-wiki]

A variant sound "Chi Na" is also seen at Chinazi (赤纳粹) from Comparisons between the CCP and Nazi Germany (纳粹德国和中共长得很想).

4.11.3.1.3. Internet number slang (网络数字语言)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Internet_slang#Numeronyms

  • https://baike.baidu.com/item/网络数字语言#2 on [baidu]

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numeronym

https://newrepublic.com/article/117608/chinese-number-websites-secret-meaning-urls highlights how numeric emails and URLs are especially popular in China, in part due to the ASCII/West-centrism of web standards: https://www.quora.com/What-is-126-com-and-why-are-they-the-owner-of-millions-of-good-domain-names/answer/Ciro-Santilli

Examples in this page:

  • [nine-nine-six-icu] is an example that is not phonetic, but just about meaning

  • 六四 used to refer to [tiananmen]

  • https://www.12321.cn/web and http://12377.cn from [cac-report-website] are likely examples where older well known official phone numbers were just directly converted to URLs

Bibliography:

  • https://www.fluentu.com/blog/chinese/2017/10/16/chinese-number-slang/

  • https://www.quora.com/What-does-126-and-163-mean-in-Chinese-language

4.12. Personal questions about Ciro Santilli (关于三西猴的问题)

4.12.1. Has Ciro Santilli you ever lived in China? (三西猴住过中国吗?)

Not as of 2019, he has only visited once in 2012, and it was amazingly beautiful.

Ciro Santilli with a stone carved Budai in the Feilai Feng caves near the Lingyin Temple in Hangzhou in 2012
Figure 50. Ciro Santilli with a stone carved Budai (布袋和尚) in the Feilai Feng caves (飞来峰) near the Lingyin Temple (灵隐寺) in Hangzhou taken during his legendary 2012 touristic trip to China. Will he ever be able to go to China again to re-experience such marvelous locations? If the CCP falls before he dies, and if the statue hasn’t been destroyed by the commies, Ciro will return to that exact spot and take a second picture. How will he look like?

But he doesn’t think it is a good idea for him to do that now, in case his Visa got accepted, because he is not interested in learning about the Chinese jail system! :-)

He knows that if you don’t mind contributing to making WW3 deadlier and shut up and obey the CCP, China is already a fine place to live as much as any other developing country.

4.12.1.1. Would Ciro Santilli like to live in China? (三西猴想住在中国吗?)

If the dictatorship ends, Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) would like to migrate to China if given a decent job to help China develop and become awesomer.

Before the Dictatorship, Ciro likely won’t be able to enter/it wouldn’t be a good idea: Would Ciro Santilli be able to visit China before the CCP ends? (三西猴能否在中共结束之前访问中国?).

And it is immoral to help make dictatorships richer by working for their companies: What should Western countries do about China? (西方国家应该怎么对待中国?).

4.12.1.2. Would Ciro Santilli be able to visit China before the CCP ends? (三西猴能否在中共结束之前访问中国?)

It would be interesting to apply for a VISA to find out.

But Ciro won’t do it because it is too risky that it would be a waste of Ciro’s precious time and money.

Firstly, Jamal Khashoggi taught us that walking into enemy into consulates of enemy countries is a bad idea.

Then, even if the VISA were accepted, Ciro could still be turned back on entering the country, thus wasting the flight time and money. This could either be a genius plot to waste the money of enemies of the state, or due to a crappy divided IT system between the border control and the VISA people.

Finally, even after the border, there is still the possibility that Ciro could be stopped in the country half-way through the visit and sent back, or be interrogated for a few days, or less likely murdered with poison.

Therefore, if you think that living in China is fundamental to understand it, please just explain what you think one can learn from the experience instead. Do you really need to live there to see its censorship machine working? It would arguably be harder to see it from the inside.

See also: What should pro-democracy Chinese living in China do about the dictatorship? 想要民主住在中国大陆的人应该干什么?.

Bibliography: cirosantilli/china-dictatorship#93

4.12.2. Is Ciro Santilli Chinese? (三西猴是中国人吗?)

See: https://cirosantilli.com/ciro-santilli

It makes Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) smile when wumaos consider he might be Chinese.

Does "Ciro Santilli" sound like a Chinese name?

Would a Chinese person write this tutorial primarly in English?

Would a Chinese person speak such obviously shit Chinese?

Think, wumao, think!!!

And it does not matter: Non-Chinese people should not interfere in Chinese politics (外国人不应该干预中国政治).

But his wife is.

4.12.3. Does Ciro Santilli speak Chinese? (三西猴会说中文吗?)

As of 2019, oral enough for daily things, but not understand most natural casual dinner conversation or watch TV series, because they go too quickly into vocabulary subject areas that he doesn’t know. And obviously, using slangs just makes things really hard.

When it matters, and with some patience, he can make himself understood though with some analogies (archive) and a dictionary.

From the HSK vocabulary list, he estimates that he is definitely HSK 3, but not quite HSK 4. This would likely equate A2/B1 in the European system.

Phonetics wise, Ciro can’t distinguish or produce a few sounds, notably -ing vs -in and his off-tone rate is high, but it tends to not matter at all compared to his lack of vocabulary. Except for his mother-in-law, who sometimes does not understand it at all without correct tones!

Ciro reads with https://github.com/cschiller/zhongwen after Perapera died when he wants to learn new words/has patience/something is very important, and can basically understand everything in that way. TODO perapera support stopped in 2021: https://www.perapera.org/plugins/ and since browsers don’t have stable API’s it very quickly stopped working for everyone. Alternatives asked at: https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/78268/on-mouse-hover-pop-up-chinese-dictionary-browser-extension-alternative-to-perape/ Zhongwen worked, source at https://github.com/cschiller/zhongwen

When he has no patience or for larger not very important chunks of text though, he reads with Google Translate as it tends to work, and then if there is an important sentence that was translated to garbage with Perapera.

Ciro writes with a mixture of Pleco, Google translate and Googling to see if Chinese actually say the sentences that way, never Google translate alone as it would be too imprecise.

Ciro really wishes he could learn more Chinese. Ciro really loves the Chinese language. But he has other more important endeavors at the moment. There simply aren’t enough hours in a day.

Spoken Chinese is in Ciro’s opinion a relatively easy language to learn from scratch, because word formation is so often logical:, e.g.:

  • volcano = fire + mountain: 火山(huo shan)

  • train = fire + car: 火车 (huo che), a reference to old steam locomotives

and there is no useless crap like verb grammatical conjugation, grammatical gender, plural inflection, capitalization, etc. (latino sine flexione anyone?)

Ciro hasn’t tried to learn characters because too much effort, but he did learn some of the most common ones without trying.

Ciro initially learnt from book that come with audio recordings in the first 6-months to 1 year in 2010, but that got impossibly boring afterward, so he later moved to just basically talking as much as possible non-important things to his wife in Chinese, and whenever he reaches one that he doesn’t know that seems useful, he Plecos it up or just 怎么说 to his Ciro Santilli’s wife (三西猴的老婆) and then Pleco.

It should also be mentioned that Ciro also feels that it would be better if all countries more officially adopted English as an international language that everyone should learn for reasons explained at: https://cirosantilli.com/#having-more-than-one-natural-language-is-bad-for-the-world

4.12.3.1. Chinese characters are insane (汉字是疯狂的)

Maybe the commies for once did something good by introducing simplified Chinese characters (简化字)?

But they should have gone further and reduced it to pinyin like the Korean and Vietnamese did, this will make your culture much easier to export.

No foreign adult will every learn to read and write Chinese unless they are completely obsessed by the culture or need it as part of their jobs. And even then, they will avoid it at all costs, because life is just too short!

Japanese furigana also comes to mind. The characters are so insane that you need to a well specified and widely used phonetic reading aid, especially for teenagers, but likely not only in case of rarer characters! There’s even an HTML tag for that for God’s sake: the HTML Ruby tag.

Yes, ideograms are:

  • beautiful

  • maybe you can read faster

  • vertical text (纵排) is beautiful.

    • the top to bottom aspect is obviously due to the binding of bamboo and wooden slips (简牍)

    • TODO but why right to left? Left to right makes more sense as you don’t put your hand on top of the most recent ink: https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Chinese-characters-individually-written-from-left-to-right-yet-in-ancient-times-sentences-of-Chinese-characters-were-written-and-read-from-right-to-left

    • but is it more efficient? Zhihu, Quora).

    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_and_vertical_writing_in_East_Asian_scripts#Right-to-left_horizontal_writing also clarifies that traditional shop signs are also right to left, and it is just a sub-case of the usual right to left script, but with a single row

  • more historically stable, and you can still read/learn more or less quickly to read texts written more than two thousand years ago

  • it takes up way less horizontal space as Ciro noticed while adding bilingual captions to some of the images under https://gitlab.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-media see e.g.: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship-media/master/Xidan_Wall.jpg

    • on the other hand, you have to use slightly larger fonts for Chinese, because the characters are so dense that if they are not tall enough they become unreadable. Still, the area is much smaller without a doubt.

  • single character emoticons like "囧", before the Emoticons Unicode block! Yes, when your language has a character so useless that it becomes an emoticon, maybe you should start to worry that something went wrong somewhere…​ See also [tank-man-emoticon].

but they just take too much time for any sane person adult to learn, it’s harder than C++!

Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) smirked when he came across the character "蒄" in Pleco, and the translation was: "meaning unknown (herb mentioned in old books)". Yes, at the word level, the same like exists in phonetic systems, but that it takes up a modern dictionary and Unicode slot is still funny.

He also smiles very broadly whenever his wife finds a character she doesn’t remember. Or when she spends 20 seconds tabbing to find the correct character for some Proper name she wants to type in pinyin. It feels good to be right.

Posts that express similar ideas:

  • Evil Chinese Characters by Ted Chiang (坏汉字由Ted Chiang)

Chinese character extreme
Figure 51. The "fictional" Chinese character "Dou" from Uncyclopedia is roughly translated as "Impossibly complex pictogram-based writing system that takes a person a thousand thousand years to learn." and illustrates well why pictograms are a bad idea. Source.
Sweet brown chinese characters meme
Figure 52. The Sweet Brown Ain’t Nobody Got Time for That meme (knowyourmeme) fits perfectly into how Ciro feels about learning Chinese characters.
Sweet brown chinese characters meme zh
Figure 53. Translation of the above.
Chinese typewriter
Figure 54. Chinese typewriter. As you would expect, it is insanely complex, and slow to type with. Source.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZcui85b4EE RARE Japanese Toshiba Typewriter. Types in Japanese, Chinese + English. Toshiba Typewriter Model BW-2112.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNUEUth7qjc Commercial for IBM’s Selectric Typewriter 1960’s Contrast with the above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_cbW5JK9WM "The most complex Chinese character" by Vladimir Skultety does a reasonable analysis of which Chinese character is the most complex
4.12.3.1.1. Seal (印章)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_(East_Asia)

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/印章_(東亞)

Seals are also of course top to bottom right to left as in the traditional texts.

4.12.3.1.2. Evil Chinese Characters by Ted Chiang (坏汉字由Ted Chiang)

https://www.douban.com/group/topic/162835411/

Ciro’s Does Ciro Santilli speak Chinese? (三西猴会说中文吗?) was mentioned in a related Zhihu answer: Answer to the Zhihu question "How do you evaluate Ted Chiang’s 'Evil Chinese Characters' essay?" "如何评价姜峯楠(Ted Chiang)在纽约客上的随笔《坏汉字》?"的回答.

4.12.4. Is Ciro Santilli a radical? (三西猴是激进分子吗?)

Saying that someone is a radical is useless Ad hominem (訴諸人身).

If you want to say something useful, give specific reasons why you think one specific thing that Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的) said is incorrect.

Do you consider him a radical because it is unthinkable that China is not perfect?

Or just because he’s trying to take down some more websites that your dictatorship still does not dislike enough to block: China is fine as it is, stop making it worse (中国很好,别让它变得更糟)?

Don’t you think that it is much more radical to be put in jail for your beliefs and silenced if you disagree with anything the government says?

Ciro doesn’t think either China or West is perfect: [western-media-has-exaggerated-reports-on-falun-gong-for-propaganda-reasons].

He’s just listing arguments why he thinks democracy is better, e.g.: Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China richer? (为什么民主和言论自由能够让中国变得更加富有?), Why would democracy and freedom of speech make China less likely to start a war? (为什么民主和言论自由会让中国不太可能发动战争?).

See also:

  • Ciro Santilli has a preconceived opinion about China that cannot be changed (三西猴对中国成见很深,无法改变)

  • Ciro Santilli and this page are completely biased against the Chinese Government! (三西猴和本页完全对中国政府有偏见!)

And Ciro never gets mad. Only a slightly sad or annoyed sometimes.

But maybe no radical ever considers themselves a radical? Hmmm…​

Or maybe: The Dark Knight - Some Men Just Want To Watch The World Burn?

4.12.5. Ciro Santilli is stupid (三西猴是个傻瓜)

Ad hominem (訴諸人身).

D E E P: https://github.com/cirosantilli/china-dictatorship/labels/you-are-stupid-argument

Feel free to publish any proof of your own incredible intelligence.

4.12.5.1. Ad hominem (訴諸人身)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

  • https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/訴諸人身

4.12.6. Is Ciro Santilli a SJW?

SJW: there is a seed of SJW in Ciro Santilli (三西猴, anti-CCP fanatic, 反中共狂热, stupid cunt, 傻屄, CIA agent, CIA特工, 肏你妈的).

One major difference between Ciro and the stereotypical SJW is that he never engage in lengthy discussions as per Ciro Santilli’s reply policy (三西猴的回答政策).

He limits himself to listening as much as he can to learn new arguments.

So the rationale of his actions is no_ to convince anyone, but rather:

  • increase the monetary cost of censorship by binding politics to tech with Screen name keyword attack (网名审查关键字攻击)

  • grou

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