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Remove lena.jpg/png, it is undistributable and violating copyright #4927

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@sandrotosi
sandrotosi
opened on Aug 15, 2015
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Hello,
Lenna images are not distributable and currently violanting the copyright of Playboy, some references:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lenna.png
https://lintian.debian.org/tags/license-problem-non-free-img-lenna.html
http://bugs.debian.org/794854

there is already 5da2608#diff-8f9a4136c7213fb5de70d2a382ed8fbf which is in public domain, please let's use that one and remove Lenna from the repo and the distributed tarball.

Regards,
Sandro

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  1. WeatherGod commented on Aug 15, 2015

    @WeatherGod
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    on Aug 15, 2015
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    If I remember correctly, Playboy and Lenna has granted rights to
    redistribute the cropped image for non-profit image processing purposes.
    This is a very old argument that was settled a long time ago.

    On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Sandro Tosi [email protected]
    wrote:

    Hello,
    Lenna images are not distributable and currently violanting the copyright
    of Playboy, some references:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lenna.png
    https://lintian.debian.org/tags/license-problem-non-free-img-lenna.html
    http://bugs.debian.org/794854

    there is already 5da2608#diff-8f9a4136c7213fb5de70d2a382ed8fbf
    5da2608#diff-8f9a4136c7213fb5de70d2a382ed8fbf
    which is in public domain, please let's use that one and remove Lenna from
    the repo and the distributed tarball.

    Regards,
    Sandro

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  2. WeatherGod commented on Aug 15, 2015

    @WeatherGod
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    Quote from the wiki page:

    "While Playboy often cracks down on illegal uses of its material and did
    initially send out notices to research publications and journals that used
    the image,[11] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna#cite_note-Thompson-11
    over time it has decided to overlook the wide use of Lena. Eileen Kent, VP
    of new media at Playboy said, "We decided we should exploit this, because
    it is a phenomenon.""

    On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Benjamin Root [email protected] wrote:

    If I remember correctly, Playboy and Lenna has granted rights to
    redistribute the cropped image for non-profit image processing purposes.
    This is a very old argument that was settled a long time ago.

    On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Sandro Tosi [email protected]
    wrote:

    Hello,
    Lenna images are not distributable and currently violanting the copyright
    of Playboy, some references:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenna
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lenna.png
    https://lintian.debian.org/tags/license-problem-non-free-img-lenna.html
    http://bugs.debian.org/794854

    there is already 5da2608#diff-8f9a4136c7213fb5de70d2a382ed8fbf
    5da2608#diff-8f9a4136c7213fb5de70d2a382ed8fbf
    which is in public domain, please let's use that one and remove Lenna from
    the repo and the distributed tarball.

    Regards,
    Sandro

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    #4927.

  3. sandrotosi commented on Aug 15, 2015

    @sandrotosi
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    actually Playboy never did, they just ignore it (for the moment)

    exactly "overlook" it doesnt mean anybody other than Playboy has any right to distribute that image

  4. jenshnielsen commented on Aug 15, 2015

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    We have already removed al usage of it in #1581 so I am surprised that the image wasn't deleted from the repository at that point. I see absolutely no reason to keep it around.

  5. WeatherGod commented on Aug 15, 2015

    @WeatherGod
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    It was kept around at the time because it was an accessible sample image,
    and thus needed to go through a deprecation cycle.

    On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jens Hedegaard Nielsen <
    [email protected]> wrote:

    We have already removed al usage of it in #1581
    #1581 so I am surprised
    that the image wasn't deleted from the repository at that point. I see
    absolutely no reason to keep it around.

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  6. WeatherGod commented on Aug 15, 2015

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    Furthermore, this has been discussed on wikimedia with a decision that it
    was fair-use: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lenna.png

    On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Benjamin Root [email protected] wrote:

    It was kept around at the time because it was an accessible sample image,
    and thus needed to go through a deprecation cycle.

    On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jens Hedegaard Nielsen <
    [email protected]> wrote:

    We have already removed al usage of it in #1581
    #1581 so I am surprised
    that the image wasn't deleted from the repository at that point. I see
    absolutely no reason to keep it around.

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  7. efiring commented on Aug 15, 2015

    @efiring
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    Ben,
    It evidently still causes more trouble than it is worth, so I merged the PR.
    Case closed.
    Eric

    On 8/15/15, Benjamin Root [email protected] wrote:

    Furthermore, this has been discussed on wikimedia with a decision that it
    was fair-use: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lenna.png

    On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Benjamin Root [email protected]
    wrote:

    It was kept around at the time because it was an accessible sample image,
    and thus needed to go through a deprecation cycle.

    On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jens Hedegaard Nielsen <
    [email protected]> wrote:

    We have already removed al usage of it in #1581
    #1581 so I am surprised
    that the image wasn't deleted from the repository at that point. I see
    absolutely no reason to keep it around.

    —
    Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub
    #4927 (comment)
    .


    Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub:
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  8. WeatherGod commented on Aug 15, 2015

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    This does raise a bigger question, though. I don't think we have any
    copyright notices for any of the images.

    On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 2:11 PM, Benjamin Root [email protected] wrote:

    Furthermore, this has been discussed on wikimedia with a decision that it
    was fair-use: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lenna.png

    On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Benjamin Root [email protected]
    wrote:

    It was kept around at the time because it was an accessible sample image,
    and thus needed to go through a deprecation cycle.

    On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jens Hedegaard Nielsen <
    [email protected]> wrote:

    We have already removed al usage of it in #1581
    #1581 so I am surprised
    that the image wasn't deleted from the repository at that point. I see
    absolutely no reason to keep it around.

    —
    Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub
    #4927 (comment)
    .

  9. WeatherGod commented on Aug 15, 2015

    @WeatherGod
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    Just for the record, I take no position on whether the image is
    "acceptable" or not for inclusion in mpl_data/. To me, it is just data. I
    fully supported removing the image from documentation and examples. The
    question that I am contesting here is one of whether its inclusion is a
    violation of our BSD license:

    estoppel precludes "a person from denying, or asserting anything to the
    contrary of, that which has, in contemplation of law, been established as
    the truth, either by the acts of judicial or legislative officers, or by
    his own deed, acts, or representations, either express or implied"
    (emphasis mine).

    So, I seriously doubt there is any real licensing/copyright issues at play
    here. Contrast this with our official position on MathWork's perula
    colormap, which they have expressly stated that they did not want it
    redistributed in any other plotting packages. All that being said, I will
    not push for a deprecation cycle for the Lenna image since it was de-facto
    deprecated by virtue of it no longer being included in our documentation
    and examples.

    I did just take a quick peek at our source tree for any licensing for
    anything in mpl-data/sample_data. I could find none. Even the Grace Hopper
    image needs to have a copyright notice. I'll open a new issue on this
    regard, as it is important.

    On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Eric Firing [email protected]
    wrote:

    Ben,
    It evidently still causes more trouble than it is worth, so I merged the
    PR.
    Case closed.
    Eric

    On 8/15/15, Benjamin Root [email protected] wrote:

    Furthermore, this has been discussed on wikimedia with a decision that it
    was fair-use: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lenna.png

    On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Benjamin Root [email protected]
    wrote:

    It was kept around at the time because it was an accessible sample
    image,
    and thus needed to go through a deprecation cycle.

    On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jens Hedegaard Nielsen <
    [email protected]> wrote:

    We have already removed al usage of it in #1581
    #1581 so I am surprised
    that the image wasn't deleted from the repository at that point. I see
    absolutely no reason to keep it around.

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    Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub
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    #4927 (comment)

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  10. tacaswell commented on Aug 16, 2015

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    on Aug 16, 2015
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    I am 👍 on the outcome of this. The image should go anyway and it is not worth the effort to argue with Debian about it. They have also hit scikit-image with a similar request.

    It probably does require a note in API changes though.

  11. tacaswell
    closed this as completedon Aug 16, 2015
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