Bug report

ThreadHandle_join in Modules/_threadmodule.c recomputes the time left of a timed join as

// _PyDeadline_Get will return a negative value if the deadline has
// been exceeded.
timeout_ns = Py_MAX(_PyDeadline_Get(deadline), 0);

(3.13 branch, line 517; 3.14 branch, line 544; also in v3.13.16 and v3.14.0.)

Py_MAX(x, y) is (((x) > (y)) ? (x) : (y)) (Include/pymacro.h), so it evaluates _PyDeadline_Get(deadline) twice. The first read is compared with 0 and the second is the one returned. If the deadline passes between the two reads, the first is positive, the second is negative, and a negative timeout_ns is returned. The loop then calls PyEvent_WaitTimed(..., timeout_ns, ...) with it, and _PySemaphore_PlatformWait in Python/parking_lot.c treats timeout < 0 as "no timeout" (INFINITE on Windows; the untimed sem_wait/pthread_cond_wait branch on POSIX). The if (timeout_ns) check after it does not catch a negative value. Thread.join(timeout) then never returns.

_PyMutex_LockTimed in Python/lock.c clamps correctly ("Avoid negative values because those mean block forever"), so only the timed Thread.join is exposed.

Why it needs a wait that ends early. The window is the interval between the two clock reads, after a wait that ended a little before the deadline. On Windows, wait timeouts are counted in timer ticks (15.6 ms by default) while the deadline uses the high-resolution clock, so a wait often ends a fraction of a tick early and sends the loop around again. A program that joins in a loop with a short timeout gives it many chances.

Observed. A pyqtgraph window's GUI thread (Windows 11, Python 3.13.16 from conda-forge) polled worker.join(0.02) fifty times a second. It hung repeatedly, within 0.5 to 5.5 hours of starting. Caught live, the hung process's main thread used no CPU in ten seconds, its Python stack was in Thread.join, and its native stack, read with dbghelp and the matching python313.pdb, was ThreadHandle_join -> _PyParkingLot_Park -> _PySemaphore_Wait -> WaitForSingleObjectEx, with the timeout argument 0xffffffff (INFINITE). Its parking-lot wait entry was queued on the worker thread's handle with is_unparking 0, so it was in its first wait, the one that takes the join's own timeout, and that wait had been given none. The worker thread was alive and running throughout.

I could not provoke it in a synthetic test (22 million join(1e-6 .. 0.02) calls from 8 to 16 threads on macOS, 3.13.5, no overrun beyond 40 ms), since the window is microseconds wide.

Fix. main already reads the clock once, as part of gh-157495 (ba91215, "Avoid Py_MIN()/Py_MAX() side effects", GH-157591):

timeout_ns = _PyDeadline_Get(deadline);
timeout_ns = Py_MAX(timeout_ns, 0);

That commit was a cleanup of several files and was not marked as a bug fix, so it was not backported. Could the _threadmodule.c hunk be backported to 3.13 and 3.14? It is one line and changes nothing else.

Your environment

• CPython versions tested: 3.13.16 (conda-forge, Windows 11); the lines are the same on the 3.14 branch
• Operating system: Windows 11

Linked PRs

• [3.15] gh-161712: Read the clock once in ThreadHandle_join() #161771
• gh-161712: Read the clock once in ThreadHandle_join() #161794
• [3.14] gh-161712: Read the clock once in ThreadHandle_join() (GH-161771) #161843