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VisualEditor: When using citation templates, the page title and access date fields should be filled automatically
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• Jaredzimmerman-WMF
Nov 8 2013, 12:34 PM2013-11-08 12:34:00 (UTC+0)
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• Capt_Swing
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Description

When cite web is used, webpage title, and access date should be filled automatically for 1 click web citations.

Status: Title and other information is done via Citoid, but auto-adding the current date to the access-date parameter is a problem because of T4700: Pre-save transform skips extensions using wikitext (gallery, references, footnotes, Cite, status indicators, pipe trick, subst, signatures).

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StatusSubtypeAssignedTask
OpenNoneT58772 VisualEditor: When using citation templates, the page title and access date fields should be filled automatically
OpenNoneT4700 Pre-save transform skips extensions using wikitext (gallery, references, footnotes, Cite, status indicators, pipe trick, subst, signatures)
StalledBUG REPORTNoneT415296 Respect 'autovalue' in TemplateData in Citoid Extension's Automatic tab
Mentioned In
T330607: Remove a spam comment in T58772
Mentioned Here
T96000: When adding a reference, figure out the page number the user wants based on information in the URL, and automatically add it
T4700: Pre-save transform skips extensions using wikitext (gallery, references, footnotes, Cite, status indicators, pipe trick, subst, signatures)
Duplicates Merged Here
T96171: Auto-populate current date in citation dialog "URL access date" field

Event Timeline

• bzimport raised the priority of this task from to Medium.Nov 22 2014, 2:19 AM2014-11-22 02:19:28 (UTC+0)
• bzimport added a project: VisualEditor-EditingTools.
• bzimport set Reference to bz56772.
• Jaredzimmerman-WMF created this task.Nov 8 2013, 12:34 PM2013-11-08 12:34:00 (UTC+0)
Jdforrester-WMF added a comment.Nov 19 2013, 7:15 AM2013-11-19 07:15:03 (UTC+0)
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Merging this with bug 50768.

  • This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 50768 ***
Greenrd added a comment.Jul 13 2014, 11:46 AM2014-07-13 11:46:59 (UTC+0)
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This has not been implemented, as of the version in English Wikipedia.

Krenair added a comment.Nov 1 2014, 2:01 AM2014-11-01 02:01:01 (UTC+0)
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It should be possible to achieve the accessdate part of this by editing TemplateData to use the autovalue field from bug 52029 (subst: the date in automatically).

Webpage title - isn't that something Citoid would do?

Krenair added a comment.Nov 1 2014, 2:01 AM2014-11-01 02:01:50 (UTC+0)
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(actually, leaving this as reopened for now due to the citoid bit...)

Jdforrester-WMF added a comment.Nov 3 2014, 4:29 PM2014-11-03 16:29:34 (UTC+0)
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(In reply to Alex Monk from comment #3)

It should be possible to achieve the accessdate part of this by editing
TemplateData to use the autovalue field from bug 52029 (subst: the date in
automatically).

Webpage title - isn't that something Citoid would do?

Unfortunately bug 2700 means this isn't very trivial…

Jackmcbarn added a comment.Nov 3 2014, 4:40 PM2014-11-03 16:40:27 (UTC+0)
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I created https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/137824/ a while ago. I'll try to get around to reworking it to make it work, which will allow you to do this.

Jdforrester-WMF added a project: VisualEditor.Nov 23 2014, 10:47 PM2014-11-23 22:47:58 (UTC+0)
Jdforrester-WMF moved this task from To Triage to Freezer on the VisualEditor board.Nov 24 2014, 1:28 AM2014-11-24 01:28:38 (UTC+0)
Mooeypoo subscribed.Apr 15 2015, 6:24 PM2015-04-15 18:24:46 (UTC+0)
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Web page title is done by citoid, I'm not sure if we can migrate the operation to the Cite web template automatically.

However (as per irc chat) filling in the date automatically is exactly what the TemplateData autofill property is for. It can be set up with a template substitution for current date, and VE will fill it in automatically.

• Capt_Swing merged a task: T96171: Auto-populate current date in citation dialog "URL access date" field.Apr 15 2015, 6:48 PM2015-04-15 18:48:56 (UTC+0)
• Capt_Swing added subscribers: • Capt_Swing, Aklapper.
• Capt_Swing added a subscriber: Ragesoss.
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@Ragesoss tried this on enwiki beta, and it doesn't work: the subst; template is not rendered.

• Elitre added a comment.Apr 23 2015, 1:28 PM2015-04-23 13:28:15 (UTC+0)
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@Capt_Swing: can you please clarify? What did you test, and where? Links are appreciated. Thank you.

Ragesoss added a comment.Apr 23 2015, 9:31 PM2015-04-23 21:31:58 (UTC+0)
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Here's what I did: http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Cite_web/doc&diff=prev&oldid=216044

The problem is indeed that substitution does not work inside 'ref' tags (T4700), so there's no way in its current form to autofill the 'access date' field via TemplateData.

It seems like this could be solved just within VE, though, by adding some way of directly adding the current date as the default for a field and leaving the parser out of it altogether. But! It looks like there's a shiny new patch for review for actually fixing that hoary bug!

Zebulon84 subscribed.May 17 2015, 9:39 PM2015-05-17 21:39:05 (UTC+0)
Trizek-WMF subscribed.Jun 3 2015, 10:52 PM2015-06-03 22:52:19 (UTC+0)
Pols12 subscribed.Oct 14 2015, 10:16 PM2015-10-14 22:16:49 (UTC+0)
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Is it Citoid ?

• Elitre added a comment.Dec 29 2015, 11:30 AM2015-12-29 11:30:44 (UTC+0)
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T96000 ?

• Whatamidoing-WMF updated the task description. (Show Details)Apr 15 2019, 7:36 PM2019-04-15 19:36:35 (UTC+0)
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Pols12 mentioned this in T330607: Remove a spam comment in T58772.Feb 26 2023, 6:33 PM2023-02-26 18:33:19 (UTC+0)
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